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View Poll Results :With various reasons in mind, is there a point a family should stop having children?
Yes (State Further Opinion in Thread Please) 7 53.85%
No (State Further Opinion in Thread Please) 3 23.08%
Middle Ground (State Further Opinion in Thread Please) 3 23.08%
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August 5th, 2007   Post 1
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The Duggar family had it's 17th child born recently. We have a discussion going on at another forum I frequent about this topic and I was interested to know the opinions of more people at another site.

What is your personal take on having this many children? Not just the "number" per say, but think about mom and dad's attention, the other children, etc... I am entangled in this topic dude to my own opinions [obviously this does not affect the family - just for discussion/debate purpose] in the matter and I'd love to see some more views on this.
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August 5th, 2007   Post 2
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Well, they all seem well clothed and happy in the photo. So long as they are not disadvantaged in any way i guess it's OK.

In the 1950s we had a Dutch family in our street with a similar number of kids and they were as happy as larks, and as far as I know, all grew into well adjusted adults. They also looked after one Grandparent. A true extended family.

I used to like them because at Christmas they invited many of the local kids around for Oliebollen (Dutch Donuts).
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August 5th, 2007   Post 3
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Being a little more sensitive of other people's opinions, this is my personal take on this topic and it's not meant to offend anyone with my opinions or wording.

It comes to a point - in my opinion - that you lose something when you are pushing them out as fast as they are coming in. I believe being blessed with the ability to carry children is something wonderful and something to be cherished. However, I also believe those children need to be cherished not only during conception and the nine months of carrying them, but while they are growing into adults. I don't believe that the parents aren't giving their "all" to their children when they are focused on the upcoming new children. (Being that this is something that has happened every year of every one of their previous children's life).

I am under the impression from things said at this other board that this family is not planning on ever using birth control because they do not believe in it for personal (religious) reasons. I do not believe that birth control is evil, unless it is used with an evil intent.


I truly do think this is sad. I'm not sad about her having a child, I'm sad for the OTHER children. "Mommy and daddy are too busy getting it on and planning for another baby, so you go do your own thing and watch out for the younger brother and sisters." (Not that I find bigger families bad either, I think interaction between siblings is a very special thing, but really, when are they going to quit?) This is the 17th one...and she's only 40, so say she still has several more years to go...25 kids? 30 kids? So much for bonding experiences with mom and dad for the previous children.


My grandma came from a large family, with nine brothers and sisters, she being the eldest of the group and she is still the rock for her brothers and sisters.


:::However:::

Children should not get less attention in hopes of getting them to be better adults. That is my whole personal conflict with this family. Those children need time to be able to BE children and not have to be the mommy while the REAL mommy is to busy giving birth and carrying another child.

Playing mommy during childhood is entirely different from having to BE mommy in childhood.

People seem to have a lot of issues with 14 year olds having to raise babies, yet this what was probably happening very early on in the older children's life in this family. It's not fair for the other kids to not have time with mom and dad too.



 
August 5th, 2007   Post 4
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i don't know, anything over a dozen is a bit rediculous...
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August 5th, 2007   Post 5
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Two children is okay!
 
August 5th, 2007   Post 6
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Check this out

Arkansas couple have their 17th child, say they want even more
 
August 5th, 2007   Post 7
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um, did you read the opening post?
 
August 6th, 2007   Post 8
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Thats a tough one...i know most would say well as long as they can afford raising those kids then its ok...but i would have to say that yes there should be a stopping point....i mean pretty soon their kids would be starting to have kids...and then that would take away from them enjoying their grandkids... and i just think that woman is crazy going through labor 17 times lol...thats like a family down the road from me...last i heard (from a few years ago) they had like 14 kids and they were from ages 6months - 19. The 19 yr old girl was married and having a baby at the same time as her mother was having another one..they too said it was against their religion to use birth control and that as long as God was giving them kids they'd have them....
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August 7th, 2007   Post 9
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Overall, it's bad to have too many kids. Overpopulation is one of the biggest threats of the 21st century.

However, if you are lucky enough to live in a developed country like America and you can afford it, it's your right. But you better be a damn good parent.
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August 7th, 2007   Post 10
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Im one of 6 children, and if it wern't for the fact that we are so far apart in age (2-33 years old) then I know I would be neglected, not because my parents don't love me, but because they are so busy.

I think that each child should be given lots of attention and care, because it's horrible having to grow up too fast, and having to be so responsible when youre only 8 years old. It's hard to have to think every day about the parents who are always there for their kids, and always cheering them on. I remember having to wait 3 hours for my dad to pick me up once. I was so mad and embarassed and my dad didn't even get it.

STOP IT, STOP HAVING SO MANY DAMN KIDS BECAUSE, UNLESS YOU DON'T WORK, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME!!
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