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International Military Forums - Military Aircraft Discussions http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/ Discussions related to military fixed wing and rotary aircraft. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:22:20 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/images/imf/misc/rss.jpg International Military Forums - Military Aircraft Discussions http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/ SAAF 2nd oldest airforce http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/saaf-2nd-oldest-airforce-t79663.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:23:24 GMT i wonder SAAF is the 2nd oldest airforce in the world but the kakest to the rest of the world of usa, uk, germany, japan, russia, china. why cant this RSA govermant spend money on its defence then to bye lux cars and houses i wonder SAAF is the 2nd oldest airforce in the world but the kakest to the rest of the world of usa, uk, germany, japan, russia, china. why cant this RSA govermant spend money on its defence then to bye lux cars and houses ]]> Military Aircraft Discussions tommy_gunn http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/saaf-2nd-oldest-airforce-t79663.html Chinese J10 http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/chinese-j10-t79654.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:35:09 GMT What do you think about it ? Here is a PDF analysis with nice pictures , in greek. http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/media/J10.pdf What do you think about it ? Here is a PDF analysis with nice pictures , in greek.

http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/media/J10.pdf ]]> Military Aircraft Discussions mr Joker http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/chinese-j10-t79654.html Mitsubishi F-2 --Japan Air Self Defence Force http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mitsubishi-f-2-japan-air-t79498.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:14:29 GMT

The Mitsubishi F-2 is a fighter aircraft manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) and Lockheed Martin for the Japan Air Self-Defense Force, with a 60/40 split in manufacturing between Japan and the USA. Production started in 1996 and the first aircraft entered service in 2000. By 2008, the first 76 aircraft are expected to be in service, with a total of 94 airframes under contract.

Development
Work started in 1980s under the FS-X program, and began in earnest with a memorandum of understanding between Japan and the United States. It would lead to a new fighter based on the General Dynamics (post 1993, Lockheed Martin) F-16 Fighting Falcon, and in particular the F-16 Agile Falcon proposal. Lockheed Martin and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries co-developed and co-produce the aircraft, the company is a major subcontractor to Mitsubishi, some of the early developmental work was actually under General Dynamics, who sold its aircraft division to LM in 1993. It is essentially an execution of the F-16 Agile Falcon proposal - a late-1980s plan for an enlarged F-16 which was passed over in the U.S. in favor of an all-new fighter program (Joint Strike Fighter). The F-2 used the wing design of the F-16 Agile Falcon, but much of the electronics were further updated to 1990s standards. The overall concept of the enlarged F-16 by General Dynamics was intended as a cheap counter to the then emerging threat of Su-27/MiG-29.
In October 1987, Japan selected the F-16 as the basis of its new secondary fighter, to replace the aging Mitsubishi F-1 and supplement its main air superiority fighter, the F-15J as well as the F-4EJ. Also during the 1980s, General Dynamics (who developed the F-16) had proposed its F-16 Agile Falcon to the USAF. While the US would pass over the design concept in favor of all-new types (F-22/JSF) and upgrades to its existing fleet, the enlarged F-16 would find a home in Japan.
The F-2 program was controversial, because the unit cost, which includes development costs, is roughly four times that of a Block 50/52 F-16, which does not include development costs. Inclusion of development costs distorts the incremental unit cost (this happens with most modern military aircraft), though even at the planned procurement levels, the price per aircraft was somewhat high. The initial plan of 141 F-2s would have reduced the unit cost by up to US$ 10 million per unit, not including reduced cost from mass production. As of 2008, 94 aircraft were planned. Also controversial is the amounts claimed to be paid to American side as various licensing fees, although making use of the pre-existing technology was much cheaper than trying to develop it from scratch.
The Japanese may eventually make up to 94, at a cost of roughly US$ 110 million each in 2004 dollars. Much of the F-16 technology used in the F-2 was the subject of some political debate in the U.S. and Japan in the early 1990s. The technology transfers were authorized however, and the project proceeded.
The F-2's maiden flight was on 7 October 1995. Later that year, the Japanese government approved an order for 141 (but that was soon cut to 130), to enter service by 1999; structural problems resulted in service entry being delayed until 2000. Because of issues with cost-efficiency, orders for the aircraft were curtailed to 98 in 2004.
On 31 October 2007, a F-2B fighter jet crashed and exploded in flames during takeoff at Nagoya Airfield in central Japan. The jet was being taken up on a test flight before being delivered to the Japanese Air Force. Both test pilots survived the incident with only minor injuries.

Design
General Electric (engine), Kawasaki, Honeywell, Raytheon, NEC, and Kokusai Electric are among the other larger participants to varying degrees. Lockheed Martin supplies the aft fuselage, leading edge slats, stores management system, a large portion of wing boxes and other components. Final assembly is done in Japan, by MHI at its Komaki-South facility in Nagoya.
Some differences in the F-2 from the F-16A:

source:http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=7682 ]]> Military Aircraft Discussions longriver http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mitsubishi-f-2-japan-air-t79498.html Boeing Delivers 3rd Australian F/A-18F Super Hornet Ahead of Schedule http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/boeing-delivers-3rd-australian-f-t79446.html Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:40:30 GMT Boeing Delivers 3rd Australian F/A-18F Super Hornet Ahead of Schedule

ST. LOUIS, Nov. 5, 2009 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] today announced that it delivered the Royal Australian Air Force's (RAAF) third F/A-18F Block II Super Hornet three months ahead of schedule on Sept. 30, after completing production on the multirole fighter at Boeing Integrated Defense Systems' St. Louis facility.
Boeing publicly debuted the first of the RAAF's 24 Super Hornets in St. Louis on July 8. Each of the three completed aircraft has been delivered three months ahead of schedule.
"We look forward to continuing to deliver Australia's newest combat aircraft on budget and ahead of schedule, as promised," said Carolyn Nichols, Boeing F/A-18F program manager for Australia. "Successful early delivery of these aircraft is a direct result of the great teamwork between Australia's Defence Materiel Organisation, the Royal Australian Air Force, the U.S. Navy, Boeing and the entire Hornet Industry Team."

More: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=917 ]]> Military Aircraft Discussions tomtom22 http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/boeing-delivers-3rd-australian-f-t79446.html <![CDATA[China's imaginary future warplanes]]> http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/chinas-imaginary-future-warplanes-t79340.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:10:11 GMT source:http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=8299 *Recently, a western media published a series of picutres showing the imaginary future Chinese warplane. It is quite familiar with the body design of F-22, but applies a canard configuration.* Attachment 722 (http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=722) Attachment 723 (http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=723) Attachment 724 (http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=724) Attachment 725 (http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=725) source:http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=8299
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]]> Military Aircraft Discussions longriver http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/chinas-imaginary-future-warplanes-t79340.html the Rafale http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/rafale-t79303.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:10:37 GMT How capable a fighter is the Rafale (compared to other 4.5 gen fighter)? Is it up there with the big names (f-15E, eurofighter, latest sukhoi etc)? Do you think it was smart for France to develop and produce it instead of going the American or Eurofighter route? Ultimately, do you think it will be seen as a success? How capable a fighter is the Rafale (compared to other 4.5 gen fighter)?

Is it up there with the big names (f-15E, eurofighter, latest sukhoi etc)?

Do you think it was smart for France to develop and produce it instead of going the American or Eurofighter route?

Ultimately, do you think it will be seen as a success? ]]> Military Aircraft Discussions benaakatz http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/rafale-t79303.html Quick B-52 question. http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/quick-b-52-question-t79302.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:07:41 GMT How old is the oldest B-52 still in service with the USAF? Thanks. How old is the oldest B-52 still in service with the USAF?

Thanks. ]]> Military Aircraft Discussions Zort Boy http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/quick-b-52-question-t79302.html <![CDATA[The US' most expensive aircraft: Top Ten]]> http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/us-most-expensive-aircraft-top-t79187.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:45:30 GMT

1 F/A-18 Hornet

USD: 94,000,000

2 EA-18G Growler
USD: 102,000,000

3. V-22 Osprey
USD: 118,000,000

4. F-35 Lightening II
USD: 122,000,000

5 E-2D Advanced hawkeye
USD: 232,000,000

6 VH-71 Kestrel
USD: 241,000,000

7. P-8 Poseidon
USD: 290,000,000

8 C-17 Globemaster III
USD: 328,000,000

9. F-22 Rapter
USD: 350,000,000

10. B-2 Spirit
USD: 2,400,000,000

Source: http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=7906

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