http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11989895/

Exerpt:
LONDON — Merely a radical Islamic political party or a “conveyor belt for terrorists”?
That is the question British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s government hopes to answer when it decides whether to join Germany, Russia and many Muslim-majority states in formally banning the activities of Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of Liberation) for allegedly inciting violence.
Hizb ut-Tahrir says it is a nonviolent political party, but critics assert it is deeply divisive and potentially dangerous -- especially in Europe -- because it is openly anti-democratic, calls for a new world order based on uniting the world's 1.2 billion Muslims in a new state and shares a worldview, if not methodology, with some violent groups.

Here's a good interactive look at Europe's next problem. Just click on a country and then read from the fact list.

http://msnbc.com/modules/islameurope/

Europe's Next problem? Thats an understatement. More like Europe's reoccurring nightmare.

I hadnt heard of them before so I read abit on them on Wikipedia, although not as severe as the Taliban, they are basically another group that plans to use democracy in order to gain power and than once thats achieved make sure nobody can do the same by dismantling democracy.

In short, their idea of paradise is most Western peoples idea of hell on earth.

Originally Posted by mmarsh

Europe's Next problem? Thats an understatement. More like Europe's reoccurring nightmare.

Isn't that the truth.

Europeans are just like "Ents" we need some time to get aroused about a problem. There are still to many of "normal Europeans" left for them to move. Once they do the obvious, that is; overplay their hand, that'll be the end of them!

Ted

Thats true. We have already seen this happen in France in the 1990's, Spain in 2004, and the UK last year. In both cases Muslim fundimantalists starting bombing the trains and it *finally* got the attention of the authorities, who came down on them with a vengence.

Not to pick on you Ted (I work for a Dutch Compamy) but whats been going on in the Netherlands with the Van Gogh murder, did the authorities finally wise up? My biggest concern still remains Germany and the Scandinahvian countries.

Originally Posted by Ted

Europeans are just like "Ents" we need some time to get aroused about a problem. There are still to many of "normal Europeans" left for them to move. Once they do the obvious, that is; overplay their hand, that'll be the end of them!

And thats why (Europe and America) bombed the Serbs...

Interesting. It is a very common theme though for groups of people to kick away the ladder to deprive others once they have achieved success by climbing said ladder. Economically and politically.

Not to pick on you Ted (I work for a Dutch Compamy) but whats been going on in the Netherlands with the Van Gogh murder, did the authorities finally wise up?

Things have become rather akward since the murder. It is so easy nowadays to score big in politics with very anti-Islamic rethorics. But the ones that bear the brunt of these feelings are the main-stream, no-problems-here muslims. Most see that too and have very ambiguous feelings about what's going on. So I think that most see it as an act of some religious fanatic, using any means to make a statement which is shared by very very few. We have had religious murders before during the ages, so this isn't new. This Ali B. hoped he'd become a martyr for "his" people, instead he gets depised for it by the same people. He is what we call a "stumper"... a sorry ass loser, who threw his life away for something that will not happen. I just hope that he'll see that in about a decade or three... he still has a very long way to go before he dies in prison.

This seems like a "second Moorish invasion" except there won't be another "Charles Martel (Battle of Tours) to save Europe", they should get rid of these people right away.

Too late for that MIRV. Its a done deal at this point.