Originally Posted by [url

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MURDO MACLEOD
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

IT might be over budget and years late but the Eurofighter Typhoon has shown that it can shake off America's best fighter plane and shoot it down.

A chance encounter over the Lake District between a Eurofighter trainer and two F-15 aircraft turned into a mock dogfight, with the British plane coming off best - much to the surprise of some in the RAF. The episode was hushed up for fear of causing US blushes.

For a project 10 years late and $8bn over budget, it is a welcome piece of good news.

The 'clash' took place last year over Windermere when the two-seater RAF Eurofighter was 'bounced' from behind by the two F-15E fighters.

The US pilots intended to pursue the supposedly hapless 'Limey' for several miles and lock their radars on to it for long enough so that if it had been a real dogfight the British jet would have been shot down.

But much to the Americans' surprise, the Eurofighter shook them off, outmanoeuvred them and moved into shooting positions on their tails.

The British pilots themselves were almost as surprised at winning an encounter with an aircraft widely regarded as the best fighter in the world.

hehehe... the united states might be placing some orders for some eurofighters [/quote]

The F-15 is regarded as the best in the world?

I'm not sure if the Typhoon would handle a dogfight against an F-16 or F/A-18. It would be pretty awesome if it could, of course.

I'm surprised to hear modern planes still need to keep a radar lock on the target while the missiles are in flight. I thought most anti-air missiles were fire-and-forget these days.

I know that Gripen has won countless of dogfights against F-16 and F/A-18s

Originally Posted by AlexKall

I know that Gripen has won countless of dogfights against F-16 and F/A-18s

NICE!

Does anybody know how well modern European planes (Gripen, Rafale, Typhoon) fare against Russian ones.

It would also be worth knowing when the F-16s and F/A-18s that were "splashed" by Gripens and the F-15s that were defeated by that Typhoon were last upgraded.

Some F-15s out there are 25 years old or older. I think it would have been more of a surprise if the F-15s had outperformed the E-Fighter. A better comparison might be the latest against the latest.

Read some comments about the E-Fighter and the F-22 Raptor from someone who has flown both.
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123009594
http://www.af.mil/news/story_print.a...ryID=123010102

Before you go screaming that Gen. Jump (U.S. AF COS) is obviously biased, read the comments and you'll see that he says he believes "the two aircraft are running neck-and-neck". They are different aircraft with different roles on the battlefield.

Here's another article, "Measuring the F-22 Advantage - (compared to European fighters; Rafael, Eurofighter, and Gripen?)"
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1403808/posts

Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike

NICE!

Does anybody know how well modern European planes (Gripen, Rafale, Typhoon) fare against Russian ones.

It would also be worth knowing when the F-16s and F/A-18s that were "splashed" by Gripens and the F-15s that were defeated by that Typhoon were last upgraded.

Not sure about how they fare off, or get fared off () by the ruskies, never been in a game that i know of, but i might be wrong. As for the models i'm not sure either, I'll try to find the article.

Well i will continue to lock, its not easy to find those kinds of thigs on mil.se lol

I think it was slightly older finish F/A-18 (new for finland but i dont think they ware of the latest make) and F-16 from norway if i'm not misstaken.

Ehhh...the F-15 is 25 years old and designed as a high-speed interceptor, not a dogfighter. I think a newer model F-16, or F/A-18E/F (Super Hornet or "Rhino" models) could take the Eurofighter.

i want to see the Eurofighter vs. the F/A-22 Raptor, then we'll see what's what

Hi,

Is it just me or the Eurofighter looks Very Very Similar to MIG 1.44 ..... they are Twins .... :P

Eurofighter
See here

MIG 1.44






Ooo and F-18 Super Hornet, Eurofighter Typhoon,Su-30, Su-33, Su-35 and Dassault Rafale are all 4.5th Generation Fighters ........... Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is a 5 th generation Plane ,..... it would be fair on Typhoon to compare and compete with them ........... It would be fair to compare it with the Fighters of it's calss.


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No, the Eurofighter has no similarities with the Mig 1.44. I've heard enough of the "this looks like this" contest already. You cannot simply judge an aircraft by its wing designs and intakes.