Topic: Enemy at the gates 5

Whispering Death · February 6th, 2005

This movie SUCKED. It would have been better if they would have just told the TURE story of the sniper duel instead of hollywooding it up and making it crap.

the_13th_redneck · February 6th, 2005

Problem is that even the "true" story is murky because they cannot positively identify the German sniper. And that's a strange thing when it comes to the German army.

Snauhi · February 6th, 2005

You have only seen the movie but I was born there

gingerbeard · February 6th, 2005

holloywood wanted to make money rather than making it accurate. just look at Troy, how unaccurate from the actual sstroy is.

probably the truth is less beautiful, therefore attracting less customers, eg. the girls.

Whispering Death · February 6th, 2005

What I'm saying is the real story is BETTER than the BS story they madeup in Enemy at the Gates.

Snauhi · February 6th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Whispering Death

What I'm saying is the real story is BETTER than the BS story they madeup in Enemy at the Gates.

of course.

Locke · February 7th, 2005

what do you expect?? its hollywood, of course they are going to use artistic license.
they couldn' stiick to a story if they were paid

MadeInChina · February 8th, 2005

ive seen a movie about stalingrad, its not pretty

yup, true hollywood mod

godofthunder9010 · February 8th, 2005

For most items of accuracy, "Enemy At the Gates" does a very poor job. It seems to try to tell a tale of vastly superior technology (Germany) vs primitive technology (the USSR). Germany has tanks and Russia doesn't. Germany is well equipped with machine guns and Russia fights with rifles not enough of them. Germany has aircraft and Russia doesn't. Etc, etc, etc. Now there were times when the Red Army was undersupplied, but that was also often true for the Germans too.

The biggest advantages that Germany had were better trained, more experienced soldiers and better commanders. Technologically, Russia was better in some areas and Germany was better in some. No overwhelming advantage to either side. And Russia always had more tanks at their disposal than Germany.

MadeInChina · February 9th, 2005

ya, very strange when i saw soldiers with half-capacities rifles cahrging at machiengun posts

when i saw it the first word that popped into my head was: sucide

in fact, the soviests rarely charged during those months of fighting, they fought defensively, and never retreated, they employed flank and other tactics of advance to recapture areas of the city

for example, mamalv hill changed hands 4 times a day.

the reality was that if charging was done, it was done with some form of tactic and staategy and soldiers are armed with submachineguns

February 6th, 2005	Post 42
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Problem is that even the "true" story is murky because they cannot positively identify the German sniper. And that's a strange thing when it comes to the German army. __________________ Sergeant 13th Redneck (RET) Republic of Korea Marine Corps TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

February 7th, 2005	Post 47
Locke Tribuni Angusticlavii	what do you expect?? its hollywood, of course they are going to use artistic license. they couldn' stiick to a story if they were paid __________________ If I am asked what we are fighting for, I can reply in two sentences. In the first place, to fulfil a solemn international obligation . . . an obligation of honor which no self-respecting man could possibly have repudiated. I say, secondly, we are fighting to vindicate the principle that small nationalities are not to be crushed in defiance of international good faith at the arbitrary will of a strong and overmastering Power. Author: Rt. Hon. Herbert Henry Asquith Source: Statement, to House of Commons, Declaration of War with Germany, Aug. 4, 1914

February 8th, 2005	Post 48
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	ive seen a movie about stalingrad, its not pretty yup, true hollywood mod __________________ A signature is a little text that can be added at the bottom of the posts you make. It\'s limited to 300 characters (size 7 to 12) on 5 line(s) and 1 image(s) with none larger than 100x500 pixels and for a maximum of 20Kb. In your text, no more than 100 characters without space too.

February 8th, 2005	Post 49
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	For most items of accuracy, "Enemy At the Gates" does a very poor job. It seems to try to tell a tale of vastly superior technology (Germany) vs primitive technology (the USSR). Germany has tanks and Russia doesn't. Germany is well equipped with machine guns and Russia fights with rifles not enough of them. Germany has aircraft and Russia doesn't. Etc, etc, etc. Now there were times when the Red Army was undersupplied, but that was also often true for the Germans too. The biggest advantages that Germany had were better trained, more experienced soldiers and better commanders. Technologically, Russia was better in some areas and Germany was better in some. No overwhelming advantage to either side. And Russia always had more tanks at their disposal than Germany. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

February 6th, 2005	Post 41
Whispering Death Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	This movie SUCKED. It would have been better if they would have just told the TURE story of the sniper duel instead of hollywooding it up and making it crap.

February 6th, 2005	Post 43
Snauhi Primus Pilus	You have only seen the movie but I was born there

February 6th, 2005	Post 44
gingerbeard Optio	holloywood wanted to make money rather than making it accurate. just look at Troy, how unaccurate from the actual sstroy is. probably the truth is less beautiful, therefore attracting less customers, eg. the girls.

February 6th, 2005	Post 45
Whispering Death Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	What I'm saying is the real story is BETTER than the BS story they madeup in Enemy at the Gates.

February 9th, 2005	Post 50
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	ya, very strange when i saw soldiers with half-capacities rifles cahrging at machiengun posts when i saw it the first word that popped into my head was: sucide in fact, the soviests rarely charged during those months of fighting, they fought defensively, and never retreated, they employed flank and other tactics of advance to recapture areas of the city for example, mamalv hill changed hands 4 times a day. the reality was that if charging was done, it was done with some form of tactic and staategy and soldiers are armed with submachineguns