Yep... As has already been said here....

Originally Posted by The Other Guy

...and with nowhere near enough soldiers. Had we gone with 100,000 instead of diverting soldiers to Iraq, Bin Laden's would have rotted away on a stick in Kabul years ago.

Had we not counted on our "Allies" (Pakistan) cough cough hack cough. To block the passes in the Hindu Kush/Tora Bora and prevent the AQ's and Talibans from fleeing into their (Pakistans) tribal territories. Anaconda might well have worked better and may have hindered the enemies plans to a greater degree or actually gotten OBL.

Pakistan is earning a lot of money thanks to OBL.

Originally Posted by 03USMC

Had we not counted on our "Allies" (Pakistan) cough cough hack cough. To block the passes in the Hindu Kush/Tora Bora and prevent the AQ's and Talibans from fleeing into their (Pakistans) tribal territories. Anaconda might well have worked better and may have hindered the enemies plans to a greater degree or actually gotten OBL.

The CIA wanted Rumsfeld to send soldiers to block the passes, but he said he couldn't make it, which has pretty much proven to be false.

Originally Posted by The Other Guy

The CIA wanted Rumsfeld to send soldiers to block the passes, but he said he couldn't make it, which has pretty much proven to be false.

Right because we couldn't have used a brigade or a couple Bn's from the 101st Air Assault Division who was in country to do that.

Just my opinion we've played patty cake, pat butt with the Pakistani's for way too long when it comes to this. We eithier conduct the war in the Stan like a war or we get out. If not it's going to be Iraq redux.

Without as doubt, we ought to not be anywhere in a combat scenario unless we are willing to kill all the bad guys, win and then, fix it up to where it can sustain itself. If politics is involved in our ROE's at all, we ought to not be there.

Actually, politics is the reason why we have ROEs.
But really they should be simple.

True, however, the ROE's become more and more restrictive as certain types in govt get in power.

Originally Posted by 03USMC

Right because we couldn't have used a brigade or a couple Bn's from the 101st Air Assault Division who was in country to do that.

Just my opinion we've played patty cake, pat butt with the Pakistani's for way too long when it comes to this. We eithier conduct the war in the Stan like a war or we get out. If not it's going to be Iraq redux.

The US will go eventually, probably with its tail between its legs. I can see terrible trouble brewing in Pakistan in the next few years.

Originally Posted by AikiRooster

True, however, the ROE's become more and more restrictive as certain types in govt get in power.

Also true.