Topic: East and Southeast Asia -- Everybody Takes Sides 4

Kane · November 29th, 2004

This new topic is.....very odd indeed.

You guys forgot about N. Korea's massive military.

I think Godthunder started this topic because of the escalating arms race between neighboring nations in Asia. This arms race might lead to further complex situations in Foreign Relations and might lead to a possible conflict. However, there are signs of diplomatic relations and increasing trade agreements between the nations. Hopefully, a war won't start at all.

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Russian would wait untill India and China are fighting a full scale war and then attack China in the back.

Definetly makes no sense whatsoever. Russia has no legitimate reasons to get attack China. It will definetly harm Russia itself.

Xion · November 29th, 2004

Kane,
We know that there are not even remote chances of a war between India and China, but as godofthunder said this is an imaginary topic and it helps to asses the strategic alliances in Asia.

If N.Korea gets involved in this war, i'm sure it would lead to a world war like situation as U.S.A. wouldn't wanna miss this God sent opportunity to crush them.

FlyingFrog,
back in the 70s Israel had asked India to allow to use its air force bases to launch an attack on pakistan and diffuse their nuclear reactors and remove any long term threats to israel.But that plan didn't get implented or something.Israel Pakistan relations are not good, only a bit better than Israel and Iran.

Darcia · November 29th, 2004

I was unaware of that fact.

That may meen they may join if, if the USA wich is Nuetral does decide to go if a good chane to cursh some enemies and to add some new teritory or allies in the area they would jump at the chance. However after the WW2 America has learned not to allie with Communist nations. So they would be on the Indian side if they joined.

MadeInChina · November 30th, 2004

So the us is goign for a modern imperialism trying to be do better than the previous british empire?

What dameon said is pretty true, the us loves to take oppertunties and gain land possession. HOwever said, i still doing agree with it, this is exactly the kind of imperialism that shook our world apart during the decades from the 1880s to 1917

Darcia · November 30th, 2004

Heres a concept. South Korea stays Nuetral during the war, The North Korean government sides with China and starts sending troops out to help them fight. After a while South Korea would have a good chance to turn around and invade them and they wouldn't be able to defend.

Big_Z · December 1st, 2004

NK troops would get about 75 feet outside of NK before they ran out of gas. I do not see NK sending troops to help out anyone but themselves.

godofthunder9010 · December 1st, 2004

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Originally Posted by Kane

However, there are signs of diplomatic relations and increasing trade agreements between the nations. Hopefully, a war won't start at all.

Naturally, that's what we all hope for. Nobody actually wants a war of this scale to ever occur. As I said, its not a likely war, but it seems like a fairly balanced conflict so long as it can be agreed that Russia and the Commonwealth side with India. If such is not the case, then that fact still tells us something, right?

North Korea and South Korea would be pretty well guaranteed to pick opposite sides and they cancel each other out quite effectively. In the long term, South Korea has one helluva lot better chance of winning Korean War II so long as China doesn't commit forces to support NK. In this situation, they'd be a lot more concerned with dealing with India and Russia to concern themselves to much with Korea.

By the way, does anyone have a list of current nations in ASEAN right now?? Also, are they likely to act as a single block siding with one side or another?

Darcia · December 1st, 2004

That is true but with help from China they could get NK troops out of they do need help.

MadeInChina · December 1st, 2004

the main thing about a feared north korean invasion is that the pathway from the mountain ranges in which the border is located to seoul is basically like the steppe, perfect for invasion, hard to defend with relitavity flat land... however, if the south koreans do invade nk, then those mountain tops would definelty be defended, making it hard and heavy casulties are very predicable

Xion · December 1st, 2004

ASEAN Nations = Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Cambodia, Lao PDR, Myanmar and Thailand.

ASEAN Dialogue partners = China, India, Japan and South Korea.

Indias somewhat friends = Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lao PDR.

November 29th, 2004	Post 32
Xion Centurion	Kane, We know that there are not even remote chances of a war between India and China, but as godofthunder said this is an imaginary topic and it helps to asses the strategic alliances in Asia. If N.Korea gets involved in this war, i'm sure it would lead to a world war like situation as U.S.A. wouldn't wanna miss this God sent opportunity to crush them. FlyingFrog, back in the 70s Israel had asked India to allow to use its air force bases to launch an attack on pakistan and diffuse their nuclear reactors and remove any long term threats to israel.But that plan didn't get implented or something.Israel Pakistan relations are not good, only a bit better than Israel and Iran. __________________ You can either agree with me or be wrong!

November 29th, 2004	Post 33
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	I was unaware of that fact. That may meen they may join if, if the USA wich is Nuetral does decide to go if a good chane to cursh some enemies and to add some new teritory or allies in the area they would jump at the chance. However after the WW2 America has learned not to allie with Communist nations. So they would be on the Indian side if they joined. __________________ ^_^

November 30th, 2004	Post 34
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	So the us is goign for a modern imperialism trying to be do better than the previous british empire? What dameon said is pretty true, the us loves to take oppertunties and gain land possession. HOwever said, i still doing agree with it, this is exactly the kind of imperialism that shook our world apart during the decades from the 1880s to 1917 __________________ A signature is a little text that can be added at the bottom of the posts you make. It\'s limited to 300 characters (size 7 to 12) on 5 line(s) and 1 image(s) with none larger than 100x500 pixels and for a maximum of 20Kb. In your text, no more than 100 characters without space too.

November 30th, 2004	Post 35
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	Heres a concept. South Korea stays Nuetral during the war, The North Korean government sides with China and starts sending troops out to help them fight. After a while South Korea would have a good chance to turn around and invade them and they wouldn't be able to defend.

December 1st, 2004	Post 36
Big_Z Primus Pilus Gear	NK troops would get about 75 feet outside of NK before they ran out of gas. I do not see NK sending troops to help out anyone but themselves.

December 1st, 2004	Post 38
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	That is true but with help from China they could get NK troops out of they do need help.

December 1st, 2004	Post 39
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	the main thing about a feared north korean invasion is that the pathway from the mountain ranges in which the border is located to seoul is basically like the steppe, perfect for invasion, hard to defend with relitavity flat land... however, if the south koreans do invade nk, then those mountain tops would definelty be defended, making it hard and heavy casulties are very predicable

December 1st, 2004	Post 40
Xion Centurion	ASEAN Nations = Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Cambodia, Lao PDR, Myanmar and Thailand. ASEAN Dialogue partners = China, India, Japan and South Korea. Indias somewhat friends = Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, Lao PDR.