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November 3rd, 2009   #331
pixiedustboo
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
I'd like to add another quote from the big J man... "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."


Basically, you can't say $#*% about anyone, because you're not perfect. No one is.
I have a SERIOUS problem with this kind of thinking...IF indeed this is the way things should be then we would have no right or wrong because in that way of thinking everyone does wrong so no one can stand up for anything/anyone.

No morals, no norms does not make a good lifestyle (nor a Christian lifestyle). (In my opinion of course).

It makes zero sense to me.


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November 3rd, 2009   #332
03USMC
 
 
It's also been said by folks alot more religious than me.

The devil can qoute scripture for his own purpose.

I'm also fairly sure that there is at least one verse refering to man lying with man being an abomonation in the eyes of the lord.

Course I'm not a bible reader. But since some people want to throw out bible verses and what not there you go.


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November 3rd, 2009   #333
sky2979
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
It's also been said by folks alot more religious than me.

The devil can qoute scripture for his own purpose.

I'm also fairly sure that there is at least one verse refering to man lying with man being an abomonation in the eyes of the lord.

Course I'm not a bible reader. But since some people want to throw out bible verses and what not there you go.

hehehehe...you're so chulo


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November 3rd, 2009   #334
The Other Guy
 
 
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Originally Posted by Chukpike
I didn't ask for guidance when I made my decision so religious quotes have no relevance for me. Having paid attention in my Sex Ed classes is enough for me to figure out homosexual acts are abnormal.
Having paid attention in your sex ed classes I'm amazed you learned anything about sex at all except not to do it until you're married!


I'm the bleeding heart liberal your mother warned you about.
 
November 4th, 2009   #335
The Other Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
I'm also fairly sure that there is at least one verse refering to man lying with man being an abomonation in the eyes of the lord.
Yes, that's the one I was quoting, Leviticus 18:22.
 
November 4th, 2009   #336
Rob Henderson
 
 
Folks, I only used the Bible quotes because they fit well here. I'm NOT one of those who goes around preaching and condemning, because I have no right to do so... Neither do any of you.

If Mark Twain had said either of those things, I would've quoted him. Jesus... (No pun intended)

Pixie... Have you ever broken a law? Have you ever done anything wrong in your life? I'm gonna go on a limb here and say yes, because EVERYONE has at some point or another. Should we let that ONE action define your as a person? Should we let ONE choice you made in your life construct our entire opinion of you? NO. Because we know that, regardless of that bad choice you made, you are still a decent person. Now, I'll agree, the lines get a little bit blurry, but right and wrong is completely relevant anyway.
 
November 4th, 2009   #337
pixiedustboo
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
Should we let that ONE action define your as a person? Should we let ONE choice you made in your life construct our entire opinion of you? NO. Because we know that, regardless of that bad choice you made, you are still a decent person. Now, I'll agree, the lines get a little bit blurry, but right and wrong is completely relevant anyway.
No, if it's a minor action it should not define a person, HOWEVER, we do need to look at things and say, "that is wrong." Do I break the law? Yes. I speed. Do I look at that and say it's wrong? Yes. If I get a ticket it's my own fault. However, I also don't run around screaming for the right to break the law and if someone calls me on it so be it.

That is the reason we have laws, morals and norms....

p.s. What if that same person, (me for example) didn't just speed 5mph over the speed limit...they drove drunk and killed someone. Does that define them as a person? Because I think there is a major difference between driving sober 5mph over the speed limit and driving drunk and killing someone.

I am not God and I can't call that, but I can call how I feel on the matter. And I think to force straight people to accept gays in their personal space is "wrong."
 
November 4th, 2009   #338
Rob Henderson
 
 
You said it yourself, right there... "There is a major difference between driving sober 5mph over the speed limit and driving drunk and killing someone."


Would you lump homosexuals in with the likes of child molesters and rapists?
 
November 4th, 2009   #339
pixiedustboo
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
You said it yourself, right there... "There is a major difference between driving sober 5mph over the speed limit and driving drunk and killing someone."


Would you lump homosexuals in with the likes of child molesters and rapists?
Nope, but then I wouldn't lump homosexuals in with straight people either. Hence this whole freaking conversation.



p.s. I have a homosexual guy friend that I adore - and I'm very comfortable with him.... However I am not comfortable with lesbians. *Shrugs*
 
November 4th, 2009   #340
captiva303
 
 
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p.s. I have a homosexual guy friend that I adore - and I'm very comfortable with him.... However I am not comfortable with lesbians. *Shrugs
*

how does that work???
isn't that hypocrisy?
(no offence)
it all depends on perspective...


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