Originally Posted by Rob Henderson

What are you insinuating, Spike? That, because I stick up for gays, I am somehow less of a man?

As they say in Australia, If the hat fits, you've gotta wear it. Homosexuals are abnormal and antisocial, and we have been through all this before, I won't answer it again.

If you quack like a duck, walk like a duck and you look like a duck, the chances are,.. that you are a duck. To use their terminology, maybe a "closet duck", but a duck never the less.

In the forces, male and female accommodation is separate. what are they going to do for the poofs, build separate accommodation for them? It is a perversion, and there is no way you can force "men" to live with perverts. It would amount to a provocation.

Next they'll demand to be issued with GI handbags.

Oh shut up Spike... Jesus Christ... I like women, I am sexually attracted TO WOMEN. Just because I don't care what someone else does in their personal life doesn't make me gay. And being gay doesn't make a man LESS than a man.

As far as gays being in the forces... They've lived with **** from bigots like you for this long, who's to say they won't be able to stand some more?

Originally Posted by senojekips

In the forces, male and female accommodation is separate. what are they going to do for the poofs, build separate accommodation for them? It is a perversion, and there is no way you can force "men" to live with perverts. It would amount to a provocation.

This is the part I feel strongly about. Gays will be able to be free and "open" yet a male/female will be forced to bunk with a gay male/female.

Not okay, IMHO.

Guess what, folks? Gays respect straight people. Just like they WANT to be respected. If a gay man/woman KNOWS that a person is straight, then that gay man/woman will respect that person's sexual preference... It's not like as soon as a person comes out of the closet they suddenly become uncontrollable.

Originally Posted by Rob Henderson

Guess what, folks? Gays respect straight people. Just like they WANT to be respected. If a gay man/woman KNOWS that a person is straight, then that gay man/woman will respect that person's sexual preference... It's not like as soon as a person comes out of the closet they suddenly become uncontrollable.

I'm not talking about them being "uncontrollable," I'm talking about the situation being an invasion of privacy.

EXTREMELY. IMHO.

So what's the difference between having the don't ask, don't tell policy and not having it? Except you KNOW there are gays in the military, instead of having to assume... Which one would you feel more awkward about, knowing someone was gay, or THINKING someone was gay but not being sure?

Originally Posted by Rob Henderson

So what's the difference between having the don't ask, don't tell policy and not having it? Except you KNOW there are gays in the military, instead of having to assume... Which one would you feel more awkward about, knowing someone was gay, or THINKING someone was gay but not being sure?

Chances are if that person is as "respectful" as you think they are they wouldn't give someone the "if" to wonder.

I would be extremely uncomfortable if I knew someone I was bunking with was a lesbian. If I didn't know and they gave me no cause to wonder...then I suppose I wouldn't be uncomfortable would I?

"I'm not talking about them being "uncontrollable," I'm talking about the situation being an invasion of privacy."

People in the military have always given up some degree of privacy (especially in the Navy) and had to adhere to a criminal code far stricter than their civilian brothers. That is just the way it is.

At some point, it is inevitable, homosexuals will be allowed to serve openly in the military. And like other forced integrations, like women and race, leadership will deal with it. Over time it will be a non-issue.

Originally Posted by Rob Henderson

Oh shut up Spike... Jesus Christ... I like women, I am sexually attracted TO WOMEN. Just because I don't care what someone else does in their personal life doesn't make me gay. And being gay doesn't make a man LESS than a man.

BS!!!

As far as gays being in the forces... They've lived with **** from bigots like you for this long, who's to say they won't be able to stand some more?

So you would call cops bigots because they don't like criminals? It's nothing to do with bigotry, rather just having the moral fortitude to acknowledge the truth.

As soon as you start using terms like bigotry, you know that you've lost the argument because it is a meaningless term. I don't like Broccoli, and I tell people about it. Just as I do this, that does not make me a bigot, just a man who knows what he likes. Your answer was the typical knee jerk reaction that people making an false argument give, when they hear the unpalatable truth.

The truth is that they creep most people out.

Originally Posted by Lavite

"I'm not talking about them being "uncontrollable," I'm talking about the situation being an invasion of privacy."

People in the military have always given up some degree of privacy (especially in the Navy)

Yes, BUT men and women don't bunk together.