About Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy Page 24
|October 21st, 2009||#231|
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"I am totally responsible for what I write,... however I cannot be held responsible for your complete inability to understand"
Last edited by senojekips; October 21st, 2009 at 06:28..
|October 22nd, 2009||#232|
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Spare you? Spare me, why don't go read another FM but I do have an idea for your sig line.
Lavite: I'm not an armor officer. But I play one on the internet.
Sgt. Rafael Peralta ,United States Marine Corps
Company A, 1st Bn, 3rd Marine Regt, 3rd Marine Divison
We will never forget your valor and sacrifice.
Semper Fi !
|October 22nd, 2009||#234|
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but still what i don't get is that if gay people are allowed to serve n the first place why arent they allowed say that they a gay????
or retrospectively why does it matter to them that much they can still serve if they want to???
and some how i think the people pushing this issue aren't even the people who are the ones serving...
so this makes me think who does this really benefit and what are the Ulterior motives?
The oath to serve my country as a soldier did not include a contract for the normal luxuries and comfort enjoyed within our society. On the contrary it implied hardship, loyalty and devotion to duty regardless of rank.
|October 22nd, 2009||#235|
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The people pushing this agenda are those who are willing to keep taking just small, almost insignificant "wins" that no one really cares about individually. They just keep taking one crumb at a time, to which they hope no one will object, "Ahh, why should we deny them one small insignificant crumb?.... In the end, they've got the whole damned loaf, and your freedom to object, has gone with it, as you allowed it to happen.
It's an old, old ploy and it still works because we are (for the most part) fools, with very short memories.
Last edited by senojekips; October 22nd, 2009 at 09:31..
|October 22nd, 2009||#236|
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Exactly. This really isn't about service in the military at all. There isn't going to be a great rush of gays to recruiting stations and we won't suddenly find out a large percentage of the military is gay. Beause they really don't care about the military and service as a group as whole.
What they care about is letgitamizing them selfs even though they can't convince alot of the general public of their letgitamacy. So they are using the military as a stepping stone.
BTW: Henderson mind your business.
|October 22nd, 2009||#237|
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03USMC: "Lavite: I'm not an armor officer. But I play one on the internet."
That's good to know. So I have a different opinion than you and your reaction is to essentially call me a liar about my military service? I don't recall insulting you, 03USMC, in the course of this discussion.
Interesting that you had to go their, not that I'll lose a whole lot of sleep over it.
|October 22nd, 2009||#238|
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Did I say non-threatening? or that it wasn't dangerous? Answer: NO. Nor was I dismissing people's service or sacrifice in the current conflicts, so stop being so freaking hyper-sensative as per usual. You really shouldn't criticize Lavite reading comprehension skill, yours isn't much to brag about either.
What I said wasnt even an opinion, its a fact. And I don't have to be in the army to point that one out, you could figure it out in any 9th grade history lesson. If you really think Afghanistan or Iraq is as bad as say WWI, WWII, or Vietnam your're the one who needs a reality check...a serious one. Ill be happy to give you a guided tour of France if you don't believe me. Where would you like to go first? From where I am sitting within 4 hours I can take you to Omaha, Verdun, Somme, Saint Lo, Caen, Ypres, Marne, Bastogne, all of which where FAR more dangerous than on the worst day in Iraq. If my Grandfather was still alive he could tell you about Normandy -he had a front row seat, or my Great-grandfather at Verdun. So Ill say it again, Iraq and Afghanistan are MINOR conflicts. I can live with being "blase" because what I said was completely accurate.
I am not saying Iraq or Afghanistan isn't dangerous. What I am saying is more people are killed and injured on highways in a single day, then what we lost in a month in Iraq and Afghanistan. Which is also A FACT.
Are the Taliban dangerous? Answer: Absolutely. Do the scare me? Answer: Yes, I have seen those types of militants in London (terrorists are tolerated there...for some reason), they are crazy. No question. But you know what? Like all whackjobs everywhere, F*** 'em! Just because they are dangerous doesn't mean I am going to piss my pants anytime someone mentions their name. That's why they are called "TERRORist", as in they want to scare you into complying to do what they want. I am not going to get into any macho BS, They could kill me if they wanted to, but I won't be intimidated, especially by a ignorant group that 3000 miles away.
If you want to piss your pants about them that's your business, but they don't impress me at all. The Nazis, the Soviet Union, the Confederacy, the Redcoats, were far more dangerous because unlike the Taliban or al-Qaeda our previous enemies had not only the desire but the ability to destroy us.
So this all gets back to my original point if Lincoln and FDR could get things done fighting a far more dangerous enemy, then there is NO EXCUSE for are own government to do the same now. Its not about lack of ability its about lack of desire.
"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch
I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work in Paris.
Last edited by mmarsh; October 22nd, 2009 at 19:53..
|October 23rd, 2009||#239|
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|October 23rd, 2009||#240|
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This is a GREAT video (from a former United States Soldier) explaining his views on equal rights...
Folks... Bottom line here... America was founded on the principle that people had the freedom to choose. Not only to choose who to worship or what taxes to pay, but the freedom to choose what makes you happy as an individual. That includes deciding who you want to love... NO ONE should be allowed to say ANYTHING to ANYONE when it comes to who a person loves. Logic bears no weight in matters of the heart.
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