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| Nuclear Duck Hunter ![]() | Conquest for the sake of gaining the spoils of war seemed to drive people like Hannibal and Alexander.
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Wars are caused by beliefs in general, not necessarily religious in nature. Religion is just a sub-group of this category, but yes, wars are caused by religion and religion is spread by war. The best example I have for the latter is the spread of Islam.
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| Centurion | People fight about everything and anything. Religion is no different.
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Many of the the Wars in the late middle ages in and around Europe where the directly caused by religion. One of the biggest problems was when the Church Of Rome Split and Protestant Wing was formed then Rome and there allies tried to crush it
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France was Catholic. England became Protestant. Both states hated each other for centuries. Yet both fought the re-emergence of Germany after 1850. The policymakers of both states were not stupid. They realized that Germans (Hans and Gretel) represented a threat. The same logic was not applied to Ivan, John Doe or Mao. | |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | It is not belief in religion that causes war except for Islam. It is the only religion whose foundation of belief calls for its followers to wage war as part of the religion. In all other cases religion was the excuse but the underlying motive was power. Religion was used as the excuse because religion defies logic and as such is easier to manipulate mass groups of people than it would be if you tried to reason and argue the point logically. Intolerance and greed have caused war, not religion.
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| Centurion | vide cor meum |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Post; Clear as mudQuote:
The song has a multitude of meanings, of which do you refer to here? Last edited by bulldogg; November 18th, 2006 at 01:57. | |
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| I am Honor | In my opinion, I think what keeps those ancient wars going and or begin was greed. Or at least I am sure it had some relation.
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