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November 9th, 2006   Post 11
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Originally Posted by LeEnfield
There have been probably more wars over religion than any thing else. Some of the worlds largest mass migrations have been caused be religion.
I don't know about that one. There are so many other things to fight about: land, politics, ethnicity and in some cases, there isn't even a reason. Even the biggest war of all time, WWII, had nothing to do with religion.
 
November 9th, 2006   Post 12
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Conquest for the sake of gaining the spoils of war seemed to drive people like Hannibal and Alexander.
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November 10th, 2006   Post 13
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Wars are caused by beliefs in general, not necessarily religious in nature. Religion is just a sub-group of this category, but yes, wars are caused by religion and religion is spread by war. The best example I have for the latter is the spread of Islam.
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November 13th, 2006   Post 14
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People fight about everything and anything. Religion is no different.
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November 13th, 2006   Post 15
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Many of the the Wars in the late middle ages in and around Europe where the directly caused by religion. One of the biggest problems was when the Church Of Rome Split and Protestant Wing was formed then Rome and there allies tried to crush it
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November 17th, 2006   Post 16
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Originally Posted by LeEnfield
Many of the the Wars in the late middle ages in and around Europe where the directly caused by religion. One of the biggest problems was when the Church Of Rome Split and Protestant Wing was formed then Rome and there allies tried to crush it
Like everything in life, this depends on your perspective. Germany vanished in the fires of the Thirty Years' War. That war resulted in the neutralization of German power until about 1850. It was a German civil war. This neutralization allowed England and France to dominate European affairs (something unthinkable prior to the German vacation) and created the illusion that both states were the dominant powers during the Middle Ages...at least in the minds of the uneducated. We still see this "drivel-perspective" in the modern movies made of the period.

France was Catholic. England became Protestant. Both states hated each other for centuries. Yet both fought the re-emergence of Germany after 1850. The policymakers of both states were not stupid. They realized that Germans (Hans and Gretel) represented a threat. The same logic was not applied to Ivan, John Doe or Mao.
 
November 18th, 2006   Post 17
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It is not belief in religion that causes war except for Islam. It is the only religion whose foundation of belief calls for its followers to wage war as part of the religion. In all other cases religion was the excuse but the underlying motive was power. Religion was used as the excuse because religion defies logic and as such is easier to manipulate mass groups of people than it would be if you tried to reason and argue the point logically. Intolerance and greed have caused war, not religion.
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November 18th, 2006   Post 18
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November 18th, 2006   Post 19
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Post; Clear as mud


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Originally Posted by Ollie Garchy
vide cor meum
I assume you mean the song as the translation in context would not make any sense unless you are declaring in latin your unrequited love for me Ollie.

The song has a multitude of meanings, of which do you refer to here?

Last edited by bulldogg; November 18th, 2006 at 01:57.
 
November 18th, 2006   Post 20
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In my opinion, I think what keeps those ancient wars going and or begin was greed. Or at least I am sure it had some relation.
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