About Disgracefully lenient sentence for Haditha murderer
|January 24th, 2012||#1|
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Disgracefully lenient sentence for Haditha murderer info
The Haditha killings severely tainted the reputation of US forces in Iraq, but by 2005, they had already been hit hard by the prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. The Haditha killings were cited as a key reason why Iraqi officials refused to give US troops immunity from their court system. That sticking point helped contribute to the eventual pullout of US troops from Iraq at the end of 2011
According to reports of the BBC this morning, the Marine Core was eager to prosecute these men, but the bureaucraticy of the US military legal system was to blame. The defence was more adept at delaying than the prosecution was at bringing them to trial and as time progressed it become more difficult to prosecute .
This may be true, but why is the legal system structured as such to protect their own? There seems to be no difficulty in the US by-passing the law when they want to. Think Guantanamo and extraordinary extradition for example.
I will believe the blame can solely placed on the legal system when Nidal Malik Hasan the Muslim 'suspect' at the Fort Hood shooting of fellow servicemen is also let off with a light sentence!
I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters. Frank Lloyd Wright
Last edited by perseus; January 24th, 2012 at 07:10..
|January 24th, 2012||#2|
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I'm the first to go to bat for combat soldiers in very grey situations where it is hard to tell friend from foe...in this instance though, it seems pretty black and white. If they were simply fragging and clearing I wouldn't condone the action but I can understand it...the fact they were all shot in the chest and head means it was in close quarters and they likely were able see exactly what they were doing.
Where was the leadership on this? I understand in the heat of combat emotions run high and soldiers are tempted to do things they would not normally do...that's why we have experienced leaders that are supposed to channel this aggression in the appropriate way...not unload on a bunch of civilians who were obviously not caught in the cross fire. Even after it happened, if the leadership had taken an active role in investigating this matter before it reached the theatre level leadership it would have done a lot show that the US military does not condone the action and that we punish those who operate outside the rules and regulations set forth to prevent such a thing from happening.
I hate to be a Monday morning quarterback because I was not there when it happened...to me though, the evidence is pretty damning...
|January 25th, 2012||#3|
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Shameful! It get's worse. Good job all the soldiers have left Iraq.
|January 25th, 2012||#4|
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I vaguely remember a British soldier shooting an Argentine POW to put him out of his misery as he was engulfed in flames and being burnt to death. Apparently the British police wanted to prosecute the man for murder.
I can't remember the outcome of the case.
Anyone with a better memory then me?
Adversus solem ne loquitor
|January 25th, 2012||#5|
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The Argentine soldier, a POW, had stepped on an anti personell mine and was on fire and dying so the British soldier shot him to end his suffering.
He was arrested by civil authorities, the Military didn't seem to be involved, but the case never went to court as the Crown Prosecution Service realised that it wasn't in the "Public interest" to pursue the matter.
Sempre in merda profundum
|January 25th, 2012||#7|
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but this has very little to do with the original point of the thread.
The oath to serve my country as a soldier did not include a contract for the normal luxuries and comfort enjoyed within our society. On the contrary it implied hardship, loyalty and devotion to duty regardless of rank.
Last edited by captiva303; January 25th, 2012 at 18:28.. Reason: atrocious spelling and poor sentence structure...
|January 25th, 2012||#9|
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It has everything to do with this thread, in this case it was unfair prosecution of a soldier carrying out a mission of mercy
|January 25th, 2012||#10|
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The conspiracy of silence on here is sickening to the extreme. Everyone has the right to condemn or everyone is in the firing line, ever heard of terrorism? If it makes me angry what do you think it does to them? Remember that the next time we have a terrorist incident in London and New York.
People say there are just a few bad apples, I can see that is not the case. Go on support one another, you only bring shame on yourselves.
What the massacre of young children has to do with mercy killing of a combatant, I have no idea!
Last edited by perseus; January 25th, 2012 at 18:27..