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August 22nd, 2008   Post 1
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Post; Discipline; then and now


I do believe its not what it was. I can just imagine the scene if a full A and B bag inspection were to be performed on a company of soldiers in the middle of the day, I can assure you that it wouldn't look like this:




Discipline of course is more prevalent in the military as opposed to the general civilian populace but it has been on the decline for some time now. What happened?
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August 22nd, 2008   Post 2
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Crying mothers over here. That's the problem.
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September 13th, 2008   Post 3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ski8799
I do believe its not what it was. I can just imagine the scene if a full A and B bag inspection were to be performed on a company of soldiers in the middle of the day, I can assure you that it wouldn't look like this:




Discipline of course is more prevalent in the military as opposed to the general civilian populace but it has been on the decline for some time now. What happened?
Do you know the date this photograph was taken? I'd be quite interested to know.
 
September 13th, 2008   Post 4
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Probably August 18, 1945, if the number in the lower-right corner means what I think it does
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September 13th, 2008   Post 5
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I can remember standing inspection in the middle of the day on a hot azz parade deck, for pre-deployment and ACB/AAB readiness inspections.

Of course I agree with 13th. Mothers of America don't want little Johnny or Janie to feel unloved or picked on or otherwise have their wittle fiwings hurted.
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September 13th, 2008   Post 6
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Crying mothers are in fact civilization's biggest threat.
Crying about this, crying about that... crying about how their kid isn't somehow numero uno in the real world. Then we make all kinds of strange rules that make the legitimate winners into losers and then what you have is... everyone sucks.
 
September 14th, 2008   Post 7
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'tis a scary and unfortunate thing. The Chief Instructor at RMC was getting a crapload of phone calls from crying mothers during Recruit Term because their son or daughter wasn't being treated as "they should be". His answer typically went something along these lines:

"Sorry, ma'am. They signed the contract. They knew what they were getting into, or at least had enough of an idea to make an informed decision."
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September 14th, 2008   Post 8
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(From my Dad, true story)


You know, in Fort Benning, GA, they had these things called "Stress Cards" for the new recruits. If the Drill Sergeant was too in-your-face or too rough with you, all you had to do was hold up your Stress Card and he had to leave you alone... Course, the next day you were considered unfit for military duty. I thought it was at least a good way to weed out the bad ones. But my story has a point, I promise. Point being that it's the whole Politically Correct/ don't wanna get a lawsuit for hurting someone's feelings. If Johnny didn't want his feelings hurt, he shouldn't have signed up for the military.
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September 15th, 2008   Post 9
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Let's talk about TTOs

TRAINING TIME OUT

We have TTO in shipboard fire school, give me a break a machinery space fire on a ship is a very harsh environment, so we train for it with velvet gloves because we don't want anyone to get hurt. Because the element of danger is taken out of the training it is not taken seriouly by the students so the screw around and go through the motions.

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September 15th, 2008   Post 10
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Rob, We have those in the CF now apparently. A nice little red card that recruits get to use if the instructors are being 'too harsh'.