Originally Posted by Ted

I find quotin you more and more pleasurable PJ, I don't know why? But both you and I know that you'll probably never find a shred of this on paper. But not being able to prove it doesn't mean it isn't true! Is it not slightly interesting that about 3/4 of the world community does find it odd that it is mostly oil-rich countries where the US interests are reinforced with military measures....

Well, frankly, Ted, I find anyone that believes the war is soley about oil a little suspect. Sure, I guess it's fine to be single minded about it but it isn't very practical or realistic. The point is, though, if you can't prove it, it's just an opinion.

Also, if you'll note, no where did I deny that oil isn't a factor. So, what are ya preaching for?

Good grief. Pictures from Abu Ghraib and even some video of British troops beating civilians.

The US should be held responsible for all the deaths in Iraq whether they be from US weapons or from insurgents, right? Right?!

Originally Posted by moving0target

Good grief. Pictures from Abu Ghraib and even some video of British troops beating civilians.

The US should be held responsible for all the deaths in Iraq whether they be from US weapons or from insurgents, right? Right?!

That was the "original" propaganda that was being bandied about. Now we find out the person that started this thread had no interest at all in this issue in the first place. lmao

A real blast ......... RIGHT?

Originally Posted by PJ24

Well, frankly, Ted, I find anyone that believes the war is soley about oil a little suspect. Sure, I guess it's fine to be single minded about it but it isn't very practical or realistic. The point is, though, if you can't prove it, it's just an opinion.

Also, if you'll note, no where did I deny that oil isn't a factor. So, what are ya preaching for?

The reason why I said that is because it is left out of the equation lately. I never hear about it while everybody knows it's importance! Look at the fuel pricess (I believe about 3 dollars for the gallon) and the impact of high oil pricess.
I don't think that oil is the sole reason for this war, but I do think it plays an important part. In my opinion it would be fine if it would be acknowledged as such.

achinese, please read your PMs ASAP (as soon as possible).

I think the reason why a fair number of conspiracy people think the war in iraq was about oil was because there was little other reason to invade iraq. True theres no piece of paper that says "Lets invade iraq for oil" but when u sit back and have a wee think about it, what did the american administration have to gain from invading iraq?

Saddam was a threat and had WMD ready to blow up the west?
Load of bollocks! There was little if not no threat and the american intelligence knew that.Iran and north korea were and still are much more threatining.

Invade for peace and democracy?
Spreading democracy and freedom is all very nice but if that was the primary reason then the administration should be invading a lot more countries right now.

Al-qaeda?
Bin Laden and sadam were not the best of friends (Unlike Rummy and sadam ain the eighties) besides, he was still thought to be in afghanistan/pakistan

Whats left in the equation? Oil and a bigger and better base of operations in the middle east. Its true that if the middle east didn't have oil, quite frankly the West would treat the region just like africa.

To be honest though, securing the economic interests of your country is understandable but when the administartion puts peoples lives on the line for poor excuses then questions do have to be asked.

I'l fully support the US troops in iraq and afghanistan, they're doing their jobs and doing them bloody well. I just hate how the adminstration have used them this way, America deserves more than a bunch of greedy tits whose diversion into iraq in the "war on terror" is on the way to causing more deaths - civilian and military then were produced on 9/11. Its not right, Bush and his pals are failing America and the rest of the world.

It is pretty obvious that oil is a big factor here people and i'm definitely no hippy or conspicracy theory junkie

We're not really gonna open this dung heap again are we?

I guess its all been said before, apologies for that people. Theres only one thing to do now:



Jequirity is off to the pub