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August 17th, 2008   #11
Roald Amundsen
 
 
At the current stage it unfortunately looks like nobody is capable of “facing” the Iranian regime and they are taking as much advantage out of it as they can.

Today they are boldly boosting that they can do whatever they want (nuclear developments) and nobody is really reacting.

With their armed forces close to the Stone Age, and a “regime” that is slowly dying (still got decades to go), what they really need, is a big punch in the nose!!
However, unfortunately previous experiences in neighboring countries have made it impossible to get any international action against Iran going.
Finally the BIG winner of the Iraq “war” is probably Iran. They are now “protected” by international “non interest in action” for quite a while.
 
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August 18th, 2008   #12
Ski8799
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roald Amundsen
At the current stage it unfortunately looks like nobody is capable of “facing” the Iranian regime and they are taking as much advantage out of it as they can.

Today they are boldly boosting that they can do whatever they want (nuclear developments) and nobody is really reacting.

With their armed forces close to the Stone Age, and a “regime” that is slowly dying (still got decades to go), what they really need, is a big punch in the nose!!
However, unfortunately previous experiences in neighboring countries have made it impossible to get any international action against Iran going.
Finally the BIG winner of the Iraq “war” is probably Iran. They are now “protected” by international “non interest in action” for quite a while.

yeah, but didn't the UN just send Ahmadinejad a nasty e-mail.....lol
 
August 18th, 2008   #13
AikiRooster
 
 
if it was someone from the UN, it was probably a don't ask don't tell wedding invitation.




Anger itself does more harm than the condition which aroused anger.
- Samurai maxim
 
August 18th, 2008   #14
Fat Frank
 
 
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Originally Posted by AikiRooster
In GWI, my unit was bombed (supposedly accidentally) by two French aircraft. Needless to say, it was definitely a Three Stooges or Benny Hill scene on the ground at that particular time.
Ask the poms, they have a story or 2 about your pilots as well
 
August 18th, 2008   #15
Lunatik
 
 
Well, the truth is, every passing day Iran gets one step closer to that first nuclear weapon, and nothing much is being done about it. Now they have a lot of gas/enrichment centrifuges and most experts claim Iran will become a nuclear power sometime in 2010, bringing the number of Islamic countries with nuclear weapons to 2 (3 if you count Turkey's NATO weapons). Who's next? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Libya? Syria?

We'll either consider all this inevitable in the long term and let them be or someone in Washington will have to come up with an idea that's a tad more intelligent than nuking them all.


 
August 18th, 2008   #16
Roald Amundsen
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatik
Well, the truth is, every passing day Iran gets one step closer to that first nuclear weapon, and nothing much is being done about it. Now they have a lot of gas/enrichment centrifuges and most experts claim Iran will become a nuclear power sometime in 2010, bringing the number of Islamic countries with nuclear weapons to 2 (3 if you count Turkey's NATO weapons). Who's next? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Libya? Syria?

We'll either consider all this inevitable in the long term and let them be or someone in Washington will have to come up with an idea that's a tad more intelligent than nuking them all.
Exactly!!!

Even if I do not at all believe that Iran has the intentions of attacking anybody, it is obvious that it will be the end of the NPT, and the door will be open for anything.

Iran (its leadership) is mainly needing a nuclear weapon in order to be sure that they will never be attacked (like Iraq), and this will allow them to stay in power for the foreseeable future.


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August 18th, 2008   #17
A Can of Man
 
 
Don't forget Pakistan.
 
August 18th, 2008   #18
The Other Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roald Amundsen
Exactly!!!

Even if I do not at all believe that Iran has the intentions of attacking anybody, it is obvious that it will be the end of the NPT, and the door will be open for anything.

Iran (its leadership) is mainly needing a nuclear weapon in order to be sure that they will never be attacked (like Iraq), and this will allow them to stay in power for the foreseeable future.
"Kids, don't poke the guy with the bomb..."


I'm the bleeding heart liberal your mother warned you about.
 
August 24th, 2008   #19
Easy-8
 
 
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Originally Posted by The Other Guy
We can't do that, because in the event of the total destruction of the Iranian government, guess who's going to move in?



If not him then certainly his friends.
Ummmm..... NO....

AQ could never in a million years gain any kind of foothold in Iran. Iran is almost completely Shi'ite - the sworn enemy of sunnis. The water is much too hot for AQ to set up in Iran. It won't happen. Maybe Hezbollah or the al-Madhi army but AQ... NOT GONNA HAPPEN - EVER.


 
August 24th, 2008   #20
Lunatik
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy-8
Ummmm..... NO....

AQ could never in a million years gain any kind of foothold in Iran. Iran is almost completely Shi'ite - the sworn enemy of sunnis. The water is much too hot for AQ to set up in Iran. It won't happen. Maybe Hezbollah or the al-Madhi army but AQ... NOT GONNA HAPPEN - EVER.
Well, if not AQ than a shi'ite extremist group, like, say, Hezbollah? They're even more vertically integrated to the Muslim society and have a constant supply of recruits as well as weapons. And as a bonus, they have Sunni branches as well. Ask the Israelis and they'll tell you all about them.

As Mr. Bush says, this is the 21st century, right? You can't attack a country, mess it up and leave the civilians in so much pain and suffering. You have to help them as best as you can. What are you going to do? Destroy a family's house and kill their children in a bomb attack and then tell teh father to not worry and just rebuild his house and life? His whole life goal will be to take his vengeance, even if he was friendly towards the west in the first place. If you don't help the people, you'd be making yourself a lot, a lot more enemies, and giving them the right to bring the war to your own streets. I.e. More terrorism, more hijacked planes, more blown buildings, more future conflicts, more deaths from all sides...

Also, let's not forget. Freedom is a very subjective term, it's definition can serve many purposes. To be fair, choosing to be governed by Mullahs and extremists is also freedom.

Last edited by Lunatik; August 24th, 2008 at 17:43..
 



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