Originally Posted by phoenix80

And Clinton actually impeached for not controling his sexual behavior

LoL

No, he was impeached for lying under oath to a Federal Judge. Being a lawyer, I can't imagine that he thought he could get away with that.

Originally Posted by Missileer

No, he was impeached for lying under oath to a Federal Judge. Being a lawyer, I can't imagine that he thought he could get away with that.

This is not a defense of his behavior, but he really never actually practiced law. He got his degree and based his BAR exam, but he went directly into politics afterward. The closest he got was when he was made the AG of Arkansas, but ADGvery rarely prosecute cases personally. And he only stayed AG for less than 2 years.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html

This absolutely cracks me up ... there are still people out there that are angry that the Republicans impeached Clinton but were unable to remove him from office. And for what ... a little sexual encounter between consenting adults (oh yeah - lying about it) ... something that ANYONE would do.
HOW SAD.

Originally Posted by mmarsh

This is not a defense of his behavior, but he really never actually practiced law. He got his degree and based his BAR exam, but he went directly into politics afterward. The closest he got was when he was made the AG of Arkansas, but ADGvery rarely prosecute cases personally. And he only stayed AG for less than 2 years.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html

For whatever reason your beloved idol was impeached for real... It's shameful how people defend that man who did nothing to destroy the enemies of the US and kept on asking for illegal and shameful stuff from his female staff in the office

Originally Posted by phoenix80

For whatever reason your beloved idol was impeached for real... It's shameful how people defend that man who did nothing to destroy the enemies of the US and kept on asking for illegal and shameful stuff from his female staff in the office

P80
He is NOT my idol ... I just believe that his peccadilloes are not/were not as constitutionally as dangerous as some of the charges that are being leveled at GW. Slick Willy lied about a sexual encounter between consenting adults. The fact that any man WOULD lie about something like this seemed to be beyond the circling vultures that were in the House and Senate at the time (Republicans). Now we look at King GW Bush and we see him violating the very wiretap law that SCOTUS has ruled on so many many times - the ruling states it is against the law and the constitution to carry out a wiretapping operation without a valid warrant and probable cause. Keep in mind that this is the same person (GW), that has signed more signing statements than ALL the rest of the presidents down through history. Evidently GW believes he is beyond the law and ONLY has to obey the laws he agrees with.

NOW - these same vultures (Republican), act as though nothing is wrong.

I guess that honor, integrity and honesty are ONLY important to the Republicans and the Republican Party when they are going after a sitting Democratic President.

Originally Posted by Chief Bones

This absolutely cracks me up ... there are still people out there that are angry that the Republicans impeached Clinton but were unable to remove him from office. And for what ... a little sexual encounter between consenting adults (oh yeah - lying about it) ... something that ANYONE would do.
HOW SAD.

Hahahaha Chief, isn't that what makes us men? The biblical urge to go forth and spawn our seeds... Clinton should have used that quote to his defence, that would have gotten the Democrats lots of extra constituents from Bible Belt !

Originally Posted by phoenix80

For whatever reason your beloved idol was impeached for real... It's shameful how people defend that man who did nothing to destroy the enemies of the US and kept on asking for illegal and shameful stuff from his female staff in the office

Phoneix01

He wasn't my idol, I idolize nobody but my parents. He was a far better president than the person we have now. Clinton popularity IS NEARLY DOUBLE this current *president* (I use the term lightly). You can spin that as much as you want, but thats the truth.

Secondly you are rewritting history. Lewenski has stated that it was SHE that chased him, not the other way around. As Chief Bones stated, consentual sex amongst adults is not illegal. This isnt Iran, its not even illegal to cheat on your wife. Clinton's impeachment wasnt really about sex or even lying to a judge, the underlying reason why he was impeached was because the minority in power disliked his political policies and wanted him out of office. It was nothing more than a thinly-veiled coup d'etat. It failed.

And to once again paraphrase the Chief, whatever crimes Clinton was accused of pales in comparison to some of thing things Bush has done.

I'm just surprised the republicans who are more about traditional values rather than christian or neocon ones are still going along with GW's dismal plans.

I like the idea of a balanced budget, and concentrating on domestic affairs. I'm not that enthusiastic about tax cuts for the rich and government deregulation and of the economy. I have a mixed bag of values and i think most people do as well.

I'm just wondering why the republicans are shifting towards doing more harm than good for themselves these days. I know the dems have their problems too, but i'd rather have them acting as a counter to bush than his own party which hasn't done anything except let him ruin everything he touches.

Originally Posted by mmarsh

Phoneix01

He wasn't my idol, I idolize nobody but my parents. He was a far better president than the person we have now. Clinton popularity IS NEARLY DOUBLE this current *president* (I use the term lightly). You can spin that as much as you want, but thats the truth.

Secondly you are rewritting history. Lewenski has stated that it was SHE that chased him, not the other way around. As Chief Bones stated, consentual sex amongst adults is not illegal. This isnt Iran, its not even illegal to cheat on your wife. Clinton's impeachment wasnt really about sex or even lying to a judge, the underlying reason why he was impeached was because the minority in power disliked his political policies and wanted him out of office. It was nothing more than a thinly-veiled coup d'etat. It failed.

And to once again paraphrase the Chief, whatever crimes Clinton was accused of pales in comparison to some of thing things Bush has done.

LoL, give me a break...

Minority in power? What are you trying to imply by that? I can't help laughing at you guys for being so un-educated about your own country's history though.

Clintoon was a weak person who cared more for money than national interests of the United States.

By the way, I am starting to wonder if some people are suffering from BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome)... LMAO

Originally Posted by phoenix80

LoL, give me a break...

Minority in power? What are you trying to imply by that? I can't help laughing at you guys for being so un-educated about your own country's history though.

Mmarsh is implying the this moral fanatic Star was chasing Clinton because of the stalemate between and Republican congress and a Democratic president. What do you think Mmarsh is implying?

Fortunatly un-education is easily fixed but your blind dismissal of some affairs and facts might not be so easily fixable.