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February 13th, 2008   Post 21
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Originally Posted by ASTRALdragon
I'm not a big fan of Obama or Clinton either, but I'm also not too comfortable with McCain as president. First time I'm voting where I don't like any of the candidates (Romney nooooooo). Where's Mary Carey when you want to vote for her again?
yeah... or Ralph Nader!
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February 14th, 2008   Post 22
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Originally Posted by Del Boy
This is my reservation about politicians who promise CHANGE to garner big votes:

If it ain't broke --- it soon will be!


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And THAT is why we all better hope that Obama is the right man for the job, he has preached "change" from the start, BUT before he gets my vote, I want to know what change?

Now just to set the record straight, I don't give a dam what color his skin is or is not. I want to know what he will do for the good of the country, which is the good for EVERYBODY, NOT just the privileged few.
I lived in Arkansas for a while therefore I will NOT vote for Hillary or Huckabee (I have my reasons)
(Hillary already had her turn running the county while Bill was under the desk, not doing anything with that woman)
As for Macain, he said the words "stay the course" Now as a Loyal to my country flag waving American I believe we can win this war (My oldest could possibly be a brain surgeon too) As a father I have a child who will turn 18 while McCain is in office, do I wan the possibility of him being drafted?
I have lost a few friends in the war so far, so Obama's thing of a pull out looks inviting since I can count my close life trusting friends on 3 fingers now.
So who do I vote for, who will do the best job? only time will tell which one of them lies to me good enough to get my vote.
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February 14th, 2008   Post 23
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The draft is the ONLY way that there will be any youth movement against the war. The few of those who care are probably already going to be in the military. The draft is the last thing that this country needs. I can guarantee you that there will be a large number of unhappy teens if there is a draft that sends them to fight for some Iraqi or Afghani that they honestly don't care about.

Wolfen, I agree with you on Obama. He keeps preaching change... but what?
 
February 14th, 2008   Post 24
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Originally Posted by Missileer
I just have a gut feeling that a true wartime President is a must for the next Oval Office position and I don't have a warm fuzzy about what Sen Clinton or Sen Obama would do when the time comes to cross swords with Middle East, South America, China, N. Korea, or Russia. Sen Obama's resume is about three pages long and Sen. Clinton is dragging an impeached husband and all his lapses of bad decisions behind.
I completely agree with you on this one; we would need the president who has experienced in the military and war, and John McCain is the one in the presidential race.
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February 14th, 2008   Post 25
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My first choice is Ron Paul by far, but since that's not happening I'll probably end up voting for Obama, or McCain if Hillary gets nominated.
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February 14th, 2008   Post 26
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I completely agree with you on this one; we would need the president who has experienced in the military and war, and John McCain is the one in the presidential race.
Are we at war? Did Congress (not the President) declare war against a country? The fact is most people are concerned about the economy not the war in Iraq or terrorism. The reason people are flocking to Obama is because unlike Hillary or McCain Obama has promised to end the Halliburton oil misadventure ASAP.

I have listened to McCain, hes an honorable man and he means well, but he he suffers from the same 'reality-check' as does out president. He is a Neocon, he honest believes that military intervention is the answer for every world problem. 5 years running to date and he still hasn't been proven right.

His ideas on almost EVERY issue (Foreign policy, military, economic, immigration) are simply the continuation of the Bush Administration, and thats simply unacceptable to most. He is going to have a difficult time seperating himself from a deeply unpopular president.
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February 14th, 2008   Post 27
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Are we at war? Did Congress (not the President) declare war against a country?
No offense, but try telling that to the ones getting shot at and blown up every day.
 
February 14th, 2008   Post 28
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No offense, but try telling that to the ones getting shot at and blown up every day.
They are in combat, but they are not in a war. Only congress can declare war, it only authorized a use of force against Saddam's non-exist, totally factitious, WMD program. Saddam is gone, So why exactly are we still there???

But a Better question is, why don't we ask them for what purpose they are getting shot and blown up at everyday? With a $6 Billion profit so far and rising, The Haliburton board of Directors thanks them for their sacrifice.

Oils well that ends well as they say...
 
February 14th, 2008   Post 29
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Agreed entirely.


Doesn't that mean we get to go home?
 
February 15th, 2008   Post 30
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The President always has the War Powers Act, thank God. No one called Viet Nam a war but I'll wager that DTOP will have another opinion of what war is.
mmarsh, the Haliburton whatever was never called a scandal in the news by anyone other than the Congressional Democrats and the other usual suspects. They would want an investigation committee if any Republican anywhere on Earth broke wind. I haven't heard of any Haliburton big wigs swinging from the yardarm as of yet.
And as for the makeup of the Supreme Court and other Federal Court judges, I would prefer a totally conservative one.
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