Death of the UCP.

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June 25th, 2012   #1
Yossarian
 
 

Death of the UCP. info


So rumors have been floating about concerning the replacement of the U.S. Army's go at pixelated "digital" camo patterns for general use, which many claim was spurred by the development of the MARPAT.

Is this true? Also, is the U.S. Army looking towards more recent patterns such as the mulitcam project, which even the general press has mentioned units selected to test the pattern on deployment along side UCP pattern soldiers.

Thoughts on what you feel the future of camoflague for military use maybe or how the UCP project should have been handled are all welcome.

Also I post this with developmental security concerns in mind. So if this topic infringes on security measures at all please let me know and I will refrain from inquiring about it.

-Yo.



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Last edited by Yossarian; June 25th, 2012 at 23:42..
 
June 26th, 2012   #2
captiva303
 
 
I always disliked UCP it is universally useless everywhere but a pit of gravel.


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June 26th, 2012   #3
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by captiva303
I always disliked UCP it is universally useless everywhere but a pit of gravel.

For a while the Army put the UCP on everything, so it wasn't hard to come by some UCP pattern book covers, which I placed over various surfaces and stood at various distances away to see how hard I had to squint my eyes for it to "blend In".

I honestly feel whoever signed off on the pattern was more in the swing of business and aesthetics than practicallity. I am hard pressed to see how it's an improvement over older patterns.
 
June 26th, 2012   #4
lolwhassup
 
 
Personally I find the UCP completely useless other than to show off and stick out like sore thumbs. But I have to suck it up and wear it.


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June 27th, 2012   #5
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolwhassup
Personally I find the UCP completely useless other than to show off and stick out like sore thumbs. But I have to suck it up and wear it.

Any thoughts on the possibility of Multicam as a successor?

I think digital may work, it's just all down to the coloration, the UCP didn't nail it. And for now it seems nobody really has a perfect formula.

However MARPAT with it's right scheme for the right enviroment approach still seems more fitting than the UCP one scheme fits all idea.

I did notice that the UCP pattern has difficulty blending in at all with foilage, and can be spotted 100 yards away on a grassy parade field, almost instantly a passerby can think, "hey look at the soldiers".

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June 27th, 2012   #6
lolwhassup
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Any thoughts on the possibility of Multicam as a successor?
Eh multicam works pretty well, but as the successor for the UCP which is used for everyday duties in garrison and what not, I don't really think the army will go for it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
I think digital may work, it's just all down to the coloration, the UCP didn't nail it. And for now it seems nobody really has a perfect formula.

However MARPAT with it's right scheme for the right enviroment approach still seems more fitting than the UCP one scheme fits all idea.
I agree, I don't have a problem with digital, just the impracticality of the UCP. There is that one new camo that works exceptionally well and it isn't digital but for the life of me I can't remember what it's called.
 
June 27th, 2012   #7
captiva303
 
 
Would that be A-TACS?? The dusty blotch looking uniform?

http://sssa-tacs.blogspot.com.au/
 
June 27th, 2012   #8
lolwhassup
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by captiva303
Would that be A-TACS?? The dusty blotch looking uniform?

http://sssa-tacs.blogspot.com.au/
Yes it is!
 
June 28th, 2012   #9
Yossarian
 
 
Heard the British Army has some interesting patterns for the 21st century that do not use either the digital nor the one pattern fits all concepts.

If you ask me more traditional patterns seem far from obselete just yet, should the U.S. Army choose to abandon ditigal patterns all together.

Either one in my opinion with proper shading could work.
 
June 29th, 2012   #10
lolwhassup
 
 
I stand corrected, apparently they want Multicam

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...2887570&rank=1
 



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