17 inch barrel, you using that for home defense? My 870 has a 24 and my Browning has a 28-inch barrel.

Originally Posted by FutureMedic

My 870 12 ga. with a 17 in. barrel is perfect.

It better be a registered NFA SBS.

Because a 17 inch barrel is one inch to short of the 1934 NFA Act.

Its my deer gun and yes, it is registered.

ah, shooting slugs and/or buckshot. I can see a barrel that short for that.

Originally Posted by deerslayer

ah, shooting slugs and/or buckshot. I can see a barrel that short for that.

The short barrel makes it easy to run through the woods with.

I wish I lived in a less banful state so I could get a Serbu Super-Shorty. My ideal CCW.

Originally Posted by FutureMedic

The short barrel makes it easy to run through the woods with.

For running with a shotgun, I employ an ages-old technique known as "being able to shoot and look where you're going, because your weapon and line of vision should be in the same plane when said weapon is shouldered". Or, alternatively, watching where you're going and watching the barrel of your rifle at the same time.

It's a skill a lot of high school students don't have, because I always run over morons who can't walk and talk at the same time.

Originally Posted by deerslayer

For running with a shotgun, I employ an ages-old technique known as "being able to shoot and look where you're going, because your weapon and line of vision should be in the same plane when said weapon is shouldered". Or, alternatively, watching where you're going and watching the barrel of your rifle at the same time.

It's a skill a lot of high school students don't have, because I always run over morons who can't walk and talk at the same time.

By running I meant move through while having the sights up.

Right- As I understand it, when shouldered, your weapon and line of vision are in the same plane, and you're ideally conscious of your weapon's line of fire, preferably without becoming disoriented or tunelling- or at least, that's how I hunt nutria when I find running them down preferable to stalking them.

Originally Posted by major liability

Wow, always a speedy reply from the resident firearms expert. That's one of the reasons I <3 the milforums.

Anyways, is the Saiga-12 REALLY a piece of crap? I know the parts and mags are expensive, but that's not too much of an issue for me. What I really want to know is: it is reliable enough to bet my life on?

he does know his stuff doesnt he