Topic: Could USA defeat USSR before the WW2 begun?? 2

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November 21st, 2004   Post 11
Darcia
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The US got very mad, The US does major build up...USA win WW2.


It is complicated to exsplain how they did it realy.
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 12
Chocobo_Blitzer
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Originally Posted by Kirill K
How would they go from weak to strong all of a sudden can you explain with some reference.
Gotta have weapons to fight a war, people have to make those weapons, lots of people get paid, companies expand... make lots of money, they can invest in stuff... USA had lots of resources.....

ya know, you get the drift.
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November 21st, 2004   Post 13
godofthunder9010
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The transition of the US Army from tiny to huge: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWusaA.htm
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Before the outbreak of the Second World War the US Army was a small professional force of 175,000 men.
That force included barely any tanks or and a relatively small number of combat aircraft. Though people like General Patton were around, they're ideas were ignored in favor of "traditional" ideas. The concept of Mechanized Warfare was extremely poorly understood by the US Army.

Now we know that the USSR had a minimum of 10,000,000 men in the Red Army as of 1939, more than 10,000 tanks and more than 10,000 combat aircraft. They had a much more developed concept of Mechanized and Tank Warfare.

So ... I think the winner of a battle on land is ridiculously obvious -- the USSR would win easily. The winner on the Seas would have been the USA though because of the substatial buildup -- mostly in the Pacific, thus thwarting the best entry point into the United States -- Alaska.
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November 21st, 2004   Post 14
Darcia
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Thats true, The USA would have been defended thanks to thier Navy, however if the troops had made it ina large enough numbers the USA would have been in trouble.
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 15
Airborne
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1930's No
1920's Yes
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 16
Kirill K
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1939 YES (just before the war)
1930 YES
1920 YES
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 17
godofthunder9010
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So you're saying that the USA could have taken the USSR in 1939? 1930 too? I'd love to hear how we'd have pulled that off. Please do share.
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 18
Kirill K
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No lol ofcourse not, its the opposite way around
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 19
godofthunder9010
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Topic: Could USA defeat USSR before the WW2 begun??
You said "YES" three times, so you should be able to see why I was confused, right?

I don't know about the early 20's, but for the rest of the period between world wars, the United States would have only been able to check any invasion forces with the US Navy. On the ground, its an easy question. USSR would beat the crap out of the USA because we did not have a built up Army.

Interesting thought. The fact that the Soviets couldn't likely successfully invade for a substantial time period (if ever), what happens when the USA starts up a wartime production economy? That's as close as you can come to making the contest all that interesting.
 
November 21st, 2004   Post 20
Darcia
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The USA could have probably wistand a Russian Invasion in 1920, not cause of Military size but because Russia was coming out of a take over and it would be hard to get the military together to fight .