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June 11th, 2009   Post 1
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Post; Conspiracy : Project J


PROJECT J



Financed by Genelkurmay Başkanlığı (Turkish equivalent of the Pentagon), the program originally started in the 1980s under the name an indigenous short-range artillery rocket project. In the late 1990s, Turkey and China signed a controversial agreement to share missile technology, and Turkey bought an unknown number of WS series surface-to-surface missiles from China, along with new technology that enabled the country to develop its own inertial navigation systems and electromechanical control surfaces that can be used for guiding long range missiles. In the meantime, Turkey indigenously developed and tested a new SRBM (domestically known as Toros) in the Black Sea, which demonstrated the capability of point-delivering a 50+ kilogram payload to a distance of 100 kilometers (62 miles). It is not known weather Toros was a result of the J Project or a separate Turkish attempt to develop ballistic capabilities.


As a member of NATO, and party to international treaties like NPT and MTCR, Turkey continues to counter and refuse any allegations regarding its ballistic missile program, and claims that Project J does not exist.
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June 11th, 2009   Post 2
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June 11th, 2009   Post 3
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Yeah maybe you're right but this is still a conspiracy. And if it is not, Turks should thank China because it says that Turkey developed their missiles by the support of China.
 
June 11th, 2009   Post 4
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No need to thank them.
 
June 11th, 2009   Post 5
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"Project J" does not exist, it's an urban legend. Something that us Turkish defense forumers use to mess around with fellow other forumers from the neighbouring countries.

The longest range (300 km) surface-to-surface missile Turkey has is the J600-T, also known as the Yildirim I/II missile, which was purchased from and/or co-produced with China and is in no way part of a Turkish clandestine missile development program.



The funny thing though is that even though Turkey had them since 2001, they hadn't been revealed until 2007 in IDEF'07 in Ankara. WS-1A/B (Kasirga) rockets date back to 1997. So, by that logic, we MIGHT currently have the B-611M model (Chinese MRBM upgrade) with a reportedly longer range and two missiles on a launcher rather than only one. But if made public, that could mean that Turkey is in violation of the MTCR agreement.
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June 11th, 2009   Post 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Everyone's made a deal with the devil at some point in their lives.
I didn't when I called him it went to voicemail :0
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June 11th, 2009   Post 7
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No, that was him, that's how he talks.
 
June 12th, 2009   Post 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatik
"Project J" does not exist, it's an urban legend.
Yeah I know. It is a conpiracy, we are capable enough to produce our own missiles with 300 km's range. But not capable enough to develop and produce some kind of MRBM with a thousand kilometers range.
 
June 14th, 2009   Post 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
No, that was him, that's how he talks.
Then why did he tell me to press 666 to leave a message
 
June 16th, 2009   Post 10
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Like I said, that's how he talks.
 



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