sven hassell said:This is a little off topic,its not the worst war crime and i'm going to upset a lot of people but I think its still a war crime.
Camp X-ray
If these are considered soldiers then treat them as P.O.W.s
If they are terrorists they should be tried in the country they commited their crimes as criminals and receive the appropriate sentences that that country dictates for terrorists.
My own personal feelings is shoot them all but that is irrelevent.
Laws are there for a reson and you cant change the rules to suit yourself no matter how evil these people are.
That is just creating a term to justify what is being done.Missileer said:They are enemy combatants, not POWs and not common criminals.
Forrest_Gump said:From the 3rd Geneva Convention:
Art. 4. A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
(1) Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict, as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:[ (a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; (c) that of carrying arms openly; (d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
(3) Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
(4) Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization, from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed model.
(5) Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law.
(6) Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
And from the 4th Geneva Convention:
Art. 64. The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force, with the exception that they may be repealed or suspended by the Occupying Power in cases where they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the present Convention.
Subject to the latter consideration and to the necessity for ensuring the effective administration of justice, the tribunals of the occupied territory shall continue to function in respect of all offences covered by the said laws.
The Occupying Power may, however, subject the population of the occupied territory to provisions which are essential to enable the Occupying Power to fulfil its obligations under the present Convention, to maintain the orderly government of the territory, and to ensure the security of the Occupying Power, of the members and property of the occupying forces or administration, and likewise of the establishments and lines of communication used by them.
http://www.genevaconventions.org/
If one would take the time to read the actual conventions instead of listening to what mouthpeices with microphones say is in them, they would find that that AQ operatives and like persons have NOTHING coming to them in the way of protections. 60 years ago when a Werewolf was captured, they were shot. No trial, no trip to an internment camp. I am sick and tired of hearing about how bad off and mistreated these peices of garbage are when they are enjoying better living conditions and more "rights" than not only the men and women guarding them, but almost every other incarcerated person on earth. The only thing these people understand is death, and their ultimate honor is to die for Allah, so lets grant them their wish and move on.
And sven, nobody has lived at camp X-Ray for years.
sven hassell said:That is just creating a term to justify what is being done.
They are soldiers or civilians,you cant say because of the need to do what the U.S. is doing (dont think I have any sympathy for them) then there is something in between. Were the I.R.A.,E.T.A. ,R.A.F. enemy combatants?
Some inmates of X-ray have never been in combat or theatres of conflict(but are obviously guilty of terrorist activities) so how does that work?
I fully support the U.S. in its recent conflicts but by not adhering to the principles it stands for it makes a mockery of itself and its allies.
We use essential cookies to make this site work, and optional cookies to enhance your experience.