Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike

Note: Most black people in 1860s Georgia were NOT slaves. Many fought against the Union.

They were given a choice:

Remain a slave until the war is decided one way or the other or join the confederacy and fight.

If you fight then you will be proclaimed a free man.

Originally Posted by Ollie Garchy

What do you mean..."a shot"? I liked what you wrote. Eloquent and hard-hitting. The devil's advocate comment was not exactly appropriate, but I am always a fan of those who criticize...and you have done so moreorless effectively on numerous occasions. Your view of PC-ism was appreciated.

I get the feeling that some of my sarcastic or whatever posts are being totally misunderstood and coloured by a lot of projection theory stuff. No, I rarely put living people down intentionally. Please do not mistake enthusiasm for ridicule. In any case, the second part of my comment was an attempt to understand Deathstrike's statement...nothing more. I think it was obvious that Deathstrike was referring to something other than the article. What? I do not know. Hence my speculation.

Fair enough Ollie. FYI a "shot" is an insult, usually masked as a compliment. I am starting to think you should employ a few smilies to let others know when you're being sarcastic.

MD is just a stirrer and I wouldn't waste too much brain power trying to understand he/she/it.

Originally Posted by Ollie Garchy

An excellent comment...all hail the devil's advocate...he alone stands for fun and games.

(by the way, I think deathstrike is talking about freed black union soldiers or maybe Lincoln's emancipation proclamation. How many black soldiers were there by the way? Probably not that many. But I have no idea.)

No, I just misinterpreted what was said in a recent episode of P&T BS about Reparations. After watching it again I think what was actually said was that most white people in the Confederacy didn't have slaves. I don't remember what their source was, though.

So my earlier comment was completely sourceless, and therefore probably wrong.

But according to this guy: , black people did fight for the rebels.

You are correct that most whites did not own slaves. They were quite an expensive luxury. In modern money, they would cost roughly what a decent car does. Imagine having a labor force of a couple of hundred. It wasn't exactly a cheap resource to use and abuse at will. That is one of many reasons it is supposed that slavery would have ended on its own without a civil war...but I'll leave that for a different topic.

Originally Posted by Marinerhodes

They were given a choice:

Remain a slave until the war is decided one way or the other or join the confederacy and fight.

If you fight then you will be proclaimed a free man.

I did not know this.

Originally Posted by moving0target

You are correct that most whites did not own slaves. They were quite an expensive luxury. In modern money, they would cost roughly what a decent car does. Imagine having a labor force of a couple of hundred. It wasn't exactly a cheap resource to use and abuse at will. That is one of many reasons it is supposed that slavery would have ended on its own without a civil war...but I'll leave that for a different topic.

Yeh, in movies the evil slave-users (Romans, Confederates, ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks etc) soften kill their slaves for fun/to prove a point/out of anger, which,in reality, was an activity only the super-rich of the rich could afford.

MOD EDIT: STOP DOUBLE POSTING - I am getting tired of merging your posts.

Remember this, "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS OF WAR".

Originally Posted by Ollie Garchy

What do you mean..."a shot"? I liked what you wrote. Eloquent and hard-hitting. The devil's advocate comment was not exactly appropriate, but I am always a fan of those who criticize...and you have done so moreorless effectively on numerous occasions. Your view of PC-ism was appreciated.

I get the feeling that some of my sarcastic or whatever posts are being totally misunderstood and coloured by a lot of projection theory stuff. No, I rarely put living people down intentionally. Please do not mistake enthusiasm for ridicule. In any case, the second part of my comment was an attempt to understand Deathstrike's statement...nothing more. I think it was obvious that Deathstrike was referring to something other than the article. What? I do not know. Hence my speculation.

Are you a Professor of Philosophy and Word Smithing at Berkely and pretending to be Oligarchy? You speak like you are stuck somewhere in in the 16th Century.

Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm

Remember this, "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS OF WAR".

Always.