Christmas message to Britain.

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Hate cleric Bakri calls for Christmas 'ban'

'Christmas Day would be ideal for terror attack', he says

Hate preacher Omar Bakri, who is barred from Britain, is calling on Brits to boycott Christmas.
Using the internet to post a rant against the festive season, Bakri claims Christmas should be "completely forbidden".
In another chilling post the radical cleric said Christmas Day would be the perfect day to launch a terror attack on the UK.
He said: "To have Christmas tree, visit so-called Christmas Father - that is completely forbidden.
"Make sure you do not watch TV. Do not let them hear jingle bells. Do not send your children on Christmas trip."
Bakri's previous vile rants included his belief that the British public and the Government were responsible for the 7/7 London bombings.
In 2005 he was excluded by the then Home Secretary Charles Clarke from returning to Britain.
The move came after Bakri reportedly said he had left Britain for good and intended to set up home in the Lebanon.
He was duly arrested by Lebanese security forces.
Bakri, 46, was the London-based spiritual leader of the extremist group Al-Muhajiroun while claiming benefits from social services.
Although the group had supposedly disbanded, Prime Minister Tony Blair said that its successor organisation would be outlawed.
The Syrian-born preacher moved to the UK in 1985 after being deported from Saudi Arabia because of his membership of a banned group there.
In 1996 he created Al-Muhajiroun (The Eyes and Ears of the Muslims), which praised the 'Magnificent 19' hijackers after September 11.
In October 2004, he announced he was disbanding Al-Muhajiroun in the interests of "unity in the Muslim world".
But soon afterwards he led a demonstration outside the US Embassy in London in which protesters chanted the name of Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden and torched an American flag.
Bakri has seven children who were born in the UK and relied on benefits for the past 19 years.
He has been told he will almost certainly never be able to re-enter the UK, despite his wife and six of his children still living in north London. (on benefits)


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This is typical of the snakes in our grass. We have been far too tolerant.




 
HANG THE SCUM!
No seriously, nip this in the bud for the cost of a length of rope and some timbers.
 
"The Syrian-born preacher moved to the UK in 1985 after being deported from Saudi Arabia because of his membership of a banned group there".

It boggles the mind to think that an enlightened country such as the UK will ban rap artist Snoop Dog from coming to Britain to give a single concert because he was deemed to be an 'undesirable' but will allow religious extremists and terrorist sympathizers to stay permanently. I mean Christ, even the Saudis don't want this guy, what does that tell you?


At least they finally got rid of him.
 
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He is merely scum. He talks big, but he is a frightened child in the process of wetting his pijamas in the eyes of the Lord.
 
Fun anti-racist fact for the day: Although muslims don't celebrate christmas as a traditional holiday, the events it celebrate they do actually agree on. Muslims see it as important due to it being the 'miraculous birth of the prophet Jesus to the virgin mary'. (Why catholics don't get excited about muslim buddies is beyond me. Both faiths see mary as a *very* important figure)
 
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Fun anti-racist fact for the day: Although muslims don't celebrate christmas as a traditional holiday, the events it celebrate they do actually agree on. Muslims see it as important due to it being the 'miraculous birth of the prophet Jesus to the virgin mary'. (Why catholics don't get excited about muslim buddies is beyond me. Both faiths see mary as a *very* important figure)
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A very ignorant post. As anyone can see it has nothing at all to do with race. Obviously it is the person who made the post who is racist. And why on earth make such an ignorant comment on catholics and muslims, when so much inter-religion is involved on a daily basis at all levels, just as in the case of catholic - jewish relations, etc., etc.' Is the poster incapable of reading Padre's recent post 33 ? And of course, in Britain we have a great many muslim friends, heroes, and favourites. I would count myself as a frontrunner in such integration , and I am a fan of such close relationships. The only segregation here is that imposed by Islamist ideology.

And I can assure you that catholics get very excited indeed regarding those muslims who wish to harm them.

Only a plonker could find this thread 'Fun', and the quote in question is entirely inappropriate as a response to the thread.

I am appalled but not surprised.
 
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oi del boy...how bout you reign your horses in before they ALL bolt.


i have NO idea what in my post above prompted you to such a MASSIVE over reaction.


what i was aiming at was the much over looking fact that Islam & Christianity share the same roots and to a certain degree have the same believes... ie: that the character you are quoting is a fool, with little understanding of his own supposed faith.


as with ANY religion, yes there are ignorant munters out there that will twist and pervert anything that will get them more followers or a bit of coin in the back pocket.


have i said ANYTHING at all to make you believe that i was supporting what this nutbar was saying? no? so, how about we treat each other with a little mutual respect and try and find a middle ground. my interest here is speaking for people who aren't here to defend themselves (or play devil advocate) but in saying that....i DONT defend the indefensible

now...if i can make a suggestion, next time, before you rail off at me as ignorant (or any other of the names you have slung at me in the past couple of days) how about you PM me and maybe i can clear it up for you. other seems to know what im getting at, but maybe i aren't making myself clear enough for you. im not saying we'll agree on anything, but if these last two reactions are anything to go by....im no where as bad as you seem to THINK i am
 
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I have only referred to you as ignorant ON THIS SUBJECT, as it affects Britain. There is no question here of religious hatred from the indiginous population, although of course Muslims are not flavour of the month right now. however, it is the brutal ideology of the Islamists which causes the problem.

And the villain in question is not a figure of fun, he is already wanted for very serious attacks in other countries.

So if I seem over -sensitive, that is to be expected. Britain is in no way the culprit of the piece.

There was no 'massive over-reaction 'from me, and I understand what you get at very well, which is what draws my reponse. If you find my responses over the top, then look to the content of your own posts .




(Edit - important and pleasurable add on here)-

NOW - THIS IS THE CHRISTMAS MESSAGE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. THIS IS ALL WE ASK ( and I am not referring to the cricket!).:-



By JANE MERRICK - More by this author » Last updated at 00:29am on 28th December 2007

Muslims living in England should be proud to support the national cricket team and should celebrate the country they belong to, Britain's first Muslim Minister said last night.
Shahid Malik issued a call to the Islamic community to embrace, not reject, Englishness as part of their identity.
The International Development Minister said he did not endorse the "cricket test" proposed by former Tory Cabinet Minister Norman Tebbit. But he said he and many of his Muslim friends were enthusiastic fans of England's football and cricket teams.

Fly the flag: Shahid Malik says many Muslim cricket fans are happy to support England..

Muslims living in Britain enjoyed greater freedoms than anywhere in the Islamic world, the MP added..

He said it was "hardly surprising" that extremists did not accept Muslims as English if those minorities did not see themselves in that way.

Mr Malik said: "My message to young Muslims is 'Be proud to be English and don't let anyone steal your identity away. This is one of the greatest nations in the world and we should be proud to live here - let's shout about it a bit more'."

The Labour MP's comments will reignite the debate about what it means to be British, which has been spearheaded by Gordon Brown.
Lord Tebbit once claimed that the true test of an immigrant's loyalty was whether he would support England in a cricket match against his country of origin.
Mr Malik's family roots are in Pakistan, but he was born in Burnley, Lancashire, and he supports England's cricketers against Pakistan. He said: "I find quite a lot of Muslims who are now very enthusiastic supporters of the English football team.
"But supporting a team is not the true test of being English. It's about the country you consider your home, the place where you will raise your kids.
"I'm very proud to support the England football and cricket teams but I don't believe that is the defining element of your national identity."
Mr Malik said in his youth he backed "anyone but England" at sport "because I had a notion of Englishness coloured by what the BNP said".
It was when he visited Scotland and met Asians who wore the kilt and were proud to be Scottish that he embraced Englishness.
He said: "It was a liberating experience - I realised I could be proud to be English."
The MP now holds St George's Day coffee mornings in his constituency to bring together people from all minorities to celebrate a shared English identity.

"Englishness encompasses anyone who has an allegiance to this country, pays their taxes here, considers this their home. If you do these things, you are English," he said.

Mr Malik, who is getting married in the New Year, became the first Muslim member of the Government when he was appointed International Development Minister by Gordon Brown in July.
A former member of the Commission for Racial Equality, he has advised the Government on community issues. One of the four 7/7 suicide bombers was from his Dewsbury constituency.

Mr Malik added last night: "The rights and freedoms we enjoy in England and the UK are better than any other country in the world for Muslims, better than any country in the Islamic world."

The Minister warned it was up to British Muslims to stand up for democracy. "With these freedoms come responsibilities and we all need to speak out more if we see something that is not right, whether it's Islamic extremists or the BNP.


*** applause from Del Boy for this man.
 
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I am actually aware that Jesus is an important figure in Islam. In fact, according to the teachings themselves, Jesus is still alive in heaven and will return to lead God's army when Armageddon rolls around. They don't call it Armageddon but it's basically the same thing.
But that has nothing to do with the message that terrorist gave to Britain on Christmas.
I too find it stupid that Snoop Dogg can't get a concert but a terrorist can stay in the UK. Maybe if Snoop Dogg converted to Islam he'd get a free ride in.
The last time I checked, inciting people and funding actions to cause actual bodily harm to innocent people was a bit worse than singing music with questionable ethics and values.
 
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