Are the ATGM system on the pictures the new HJ-8E Red Arrow system?

Sir Doc,

No it is HJ-73

Yeah http://www.sinodefence.com is a source which is good but not very quickly updated.

And a problem with Chinese govenment is that they normally releases info about their key weapons only when they are deployed in batches So we can only get a bit by bit info from web

Oh yeah maybe you mean this one, it is indeed HJ-8E



And there is just too few pics of T-2000 at this moment.

While if you can read Chinese, here is a big collection of Chinese tanks, connection speed maybe not that fast though cuz it is in China

http://pic.tiexue.net/dirs.aspx?page=1&dirid=2290

Click to see:
T-99 upgrated version:
http://pic.tiexue.net/picinfo.aspx?id=60846
T-99 goes water in:
http://pic.tiexue.net/picinfo.aspx?id=25427

I'm not a moderator, but I think they'll warn you to stop inserting pics......... not sure...

@Uncle_Sam:

I guess you are right, it is good suggesion

But this time please excuse me cuz I just found some more T-2000 pictures for Sir DOC.S from Sweden


T-2000



Click here, there are more T-2000 pictures:
http://pic.tiexue.net/dirs.aspx?page=1&dirid=2291

Thanks FlyingFrog

Yeah I did suspect that it was the HJ-8E ATGM - Well I don´t want to be in a tank when that rascal fires in anger. Maby if I would be in a T-90M with Shtora-1 defensive aids suite or the Type 98 with active self defense system mounted on the turret roof. The LWR (Laser Warning Receiver) Then you have a little chance of survival. In a tank without Shtora? "Well then I just abondon the tank if I am facing a couple of HJ-8E groups in the terrain."

These pictures will be on my screen for a while
Dubble thanks FlyingFrog!

Can´t help it.... Chines and Russian - Ukraine armour is like candy for my eyes "It´s sick...." Machines for mass destruction and I am dreaming of them. On my planet there would be a loot of fields of tanks to walk around, polish and admire. I don't care what people think about these machines or nations in general. I care about well done designs. As people that have older cars from the 50-60s that they polish and admire. My thing is foreign tanks and equipment.

Cheers:
Doc.S

I know the M1 cannon was designed in Germany i thought it was made there too. The M1 is an old ass tank, you guys are trying to compare it to brand new tanks. Americas new tank will be rolling out in the not to far future. No other current tank has come even close to proving itself like the M1. And wow im shocked you mean to say that an M1 has been destroyed?!?!?! Pretty much any tank will be destroyed if you hit it under the turrent from the side like the pcitures you showed. In desert storm I believe Iraq lost somthing around 3700 tanks and we lost 4, and i know one of them the driver had a siezure and it rolled off a cliff killing the entire crew. Also the Abrams uses a 1500 hp turbine engine pretty much all other tanks use diesels. Its the most powerful as well, its top speed is 45 mph only because anything fater then that and the tracks fall off. And to the guy who said Russia is constantly updating their tanks and America rarely updates, maybe its because we get the updates right the first time. The tank even being considered as the best in the 21st century from the 1970s is pretty impressive..... You guys are talking about tanks no older then the 90s some not even in production.


"The M1A1/2 Abrams main battle tank is manufactured by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS). The first M1 tank was produced in 1978, the M1A1 in 1985 and the M1A2 in 1986."

http://www.army-technology.com/proje...ams/index.html

Originally Posted by Big_Z

I know the M1 cannon was designed in Germany i thought it was made there too. The M1 is an old ass tank, you guys are trying to compare it to brand new tanks. Americas new tank will be rolling out in the not to far future. No other current tank has come even close to proving itself like the M1. And wow im shocked you mean to say that an M1 has been destroyed?!?!?! Pretty much any tank will be destroyed if you hit it under the turrent from the side like the pcitures you showed. In desert storm I believe Iraq lost somthing around 3700 tanks and we lost 4, and i know one of them the driver had a siezure and it rolled off a cliff killing the entire crew. Also the Abrams uses a 1500 hp turbine engine pretty much all other tanks use diesels. Its the most powerful as well, its top speed is 45 mph only because anything fater then that and the tracks fall off. And to the guy who said Russia is constantly updating their tanks and America rarely updates, maybe its because we get the updates right the first time. The tank even being considered as the best in the 21st century from the 1970s is pretty impressive..... You guys are talking about tanks no older then the 90s some not even in production.


"The M1A1/2 Abrams main battle tank is manufactured by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS). The first M1 tank was produced in 1978, the M1A1 in 1985 and the M1A2 in 1986."

http://www.army-technology.com/proje...ams/index.html

with US economy right now i dont think that the new will be rolling out soon.....

What's wrong with the economy? It's not Russia!
And yes, it is very praiseworthy for all those nations to try and again not to beat up tank old 20 years! Thank You!

Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam

What's wrong with the economy? It's not Russia!
And yes, it is very praiseworthy for all those nations to try and again not to beat up tank old 20 years! Thank You!

No Russias military economy is rising now you all think it is like in 1991, but its not... and Sam have u ever wondered how much USA is wasting only on the war ,and then how much on repairs of the armoured vechicels that have been damedge, because its not cheap to repear a M1, and then how much money USA is wasting on those new projects..

So what!? US has so much money which Russia can't imagine! Russia, I think, is 11th in the Europe on spending money for the military......