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January 14th, 2005   Post 71
Sexybeast
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lol..
is russians feel the same as chinese on the issue of independance of some place they claimed theirs
 
January 15th, 2005   Post 72
Whispering Death
Tribuni Angusticlavii
 
 
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I think that if Russia was a little more friendly towards the United States, like perhaps helping out in Iraq, I would be in favor of genocide of all Chechnians for what they have to Russian children. If it was one of my kids in that school or my wife in the theater, I would spend the rest of my life killing Chechnians.
 
January 15th, 2005   Post 73
redfox0035
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So in effect its Russia's way of dealing with ambushes.
Not the only one.

But preventive actions like finding and destroying weapon cashes, terrorist bases, and other are the best.

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This is why they are doing it and why cases of Russian brutality are mentioned. The bruality occurs because the bandits/terrorists are in civilian areas and the Russians don't discriminate between whom they rough-up but, they do discriminate between whom they kill or take in.
Such operation always based on information cooperative with Chechen MVD service, so where did you find this "brutalities" & "somebody don't discriminate" is a mystery.
 
January 16th, 2005   Post 74
Vitaly
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During a house clearing, Spetznaz forces most likely will hit or "roughly" subdue the personnel inside the house, even if they are civilians. That is considered "brutality". The point is that they do not kill the civilians. But, upon recieveing orders, they may kill the bandits/terrorists. That's called discrimintating between combatants and non-combatants.
So if a Russian unit goes into a house they will shoot the terrorsists with weapons and then take down the civilians in a rough manner. (hand/flex cuffing, sort of what the American Police do to people resisting arrest). So that's what I said meant.
 
January 23rd, 2005   Post 75
EuroSpike
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"Yes thats exactly correct. I agree 100 percent. Thats why the Russians have been assaulting houses in "zachistka" operations. Its to neutralize the Chechen bandits that do these uncounterable ambushes before they actually do it. So in effect its Russia's way of dealing with ambushes. You attack the perpetrators of previous attacks and collaborators for future attacks before the next one occurs. The Russian military is going house-to-house to find these people that aren't currently in the woods. This is why they are doing it and why cases of Russian brutality are mentioned. The bruality occurs because the bandits/terrorists are in civilian areas and the Russians don't discriminate between whom they rough-up but, they do discriminate between whom they kill or take in."

That tactic causes a lot of civilian casualties and suffering. The best way is to find and destroy guerilla's bases where they rest and maintain their equipments, if bases are found.

One anti-ambush tactic is to turn immediately IFV/APCs towards enemy, return fire with vehicle's weapons, dissmount infantry and pinn ambusher down and destroy it. If ambusher is not pinned, they will retreat and dissappear.