About Can taiwanese kidd DDG can restrain ambition of China? Page 2
|December 19th, 2005||#11|
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“War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.”
—John Stuart Mill
|December 20th, 2005||#12|
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Better than the Aegis class? I daresay the most advanced weaponry we should sell them is some of the old mothballed WWII battleships, like the Alabama or New Jersey.
"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." - John Steinbeck
|December 20th, 2005||#13|
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ARLEIGH BURKE CLASS (AEGIS) GUIDED MISSILE DESTROYERS, USA
The first Arleigh Burke Class Aegis destroyer was commissioned in 1991. Contracts for the destroyers have been split between the Northrop Grumman Ship Systems (formerly Litton Ingalls Shipbuilding), based in Pascagoula, Mississippi and the General Dynamics subsidiary, Bath Iron Works, based in Maine. The first 21 ships (DDG51-DDG71) are categorised as Flight I and the next seven (DDG72-DDG78) as Flight II.
The revised Flight IIA ships entered production in late 1997. 17 have been commissioned: USS Oscar Austin (DDG 79), August 2000; Roosevelt (DDG 80), November 2000; Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81), March 2001; Lassen (DDG 82), April 2001; Howard (DDG 83), October 2001; Bulkeley (DDG 84), December 2001; Shoup (DDG 86), June 2002; McCampbell (DDG 85), August 2002; Preble (DDG 88), November 2002; Mason (DDG 87), April 2003; USS Mustin (DDG 89), July 2003; Chafee (DDG 90), October 2003. Pinkney (DDG 91), May 2004; Momsen (DDG 92), August 2004; Chung-Hoon (DDG 93), September 2004; James E Williams (DDG 95), December 2004; Nitze (DDG 94), March 2005. Halsey (DDG 97), July 2005.
The ships are armed with 56 Raytheon Tomahawk cruise missiles, with a combination of land-attack (TLAM) missiles with a Tercom Aided Navigation System, and anti-ship missiles with inertial guidance. The Standard SM-2MR Block 4 surface-to-air missiles with command/inertial guidance remain at the centre of the Aegis system. Both Tomahawk and Standard missiles are fired from two Lockheed Martin Mk 41 vertical launch systems.
These things are floating Armageddons.
|December 21st, 2005||#14|
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The problem with a stagnated, constant politico/military conflict like this, especially when a country is bullying a smaller, less defensible country, is that there will be repercussions to both the sparring parties and any benefactors. One of those problems is that China's now going to be looking for ways around those two destroyers. As a deterrent, sure, I'd watch my back if I were trying to assault a blocking force like that. But as I said, tensions are going to escalate as the firepower escalates.
|December 21st, 2005||#15|
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I think they bought all four of them from Fleet. They are upgraded to almost new condition. The anti-sub systems surpass most of our bigger destroyers because of being designed to run quiet.
|December 24th, 2005||#16|
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As for the Kidd's saving Taiwan, I doubt it, they will be as advanced, if not more, than anything China has in their arsenal but against hundreds or even thousands of air craft China would be throwing at Taiwan they are essentially ineffective, they will be able to pack a punch but it will only leave a bruise, not break anything.
Now, if we were to give Taiwan a couple destroyers or cruisers with Aegis it would be a different story, since they have the capability to track and engage hundreds of targets at the same time.
Please note that 98% of what I say is my opinion and/or my "version" of the facts. Most of what I say is rumor with little to no evidence to back it up, just something I picked up somewhere.
|December 24th, 2005||#17|
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I am of the firm opinion this island is not worth it.
I've been there, dealt with the people both on and off that rock and they deserve China. Just my opinion... but they are in fact using the US and drawing us into something that most definitely smells like a Hyde Park dunny. The Taiwanese are known internationally as the most corrupt and incorrigible businessmen anywhere. Smugglers and poachers in business suits the lot of them. The PRC and Taiwan are a match made in heaven, let them sort it out and stay out of it is my advice.
If two criminals were beating the crap out of each other would you risk getting stabbed or shot to break it up? I say stand back, let them sort it out, don't let any bystanders get hurt, send the loser to the morgue and take the winner to jail.
Last edited by bulldogg; December 24th, 2005 at 01:59..
|December 26th, 2005||#19|
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I'm probably about to be neutered but, I think there would be no war if both sides just said, "okay, it's over" and became PRC. The mainland and Hong Kong deal worked out fairly well and I think Taiwan would be received in the same manner. Except for what's left of the Formosans, everyone on Taiwan is Chinese with the exception of tourists and business people.
|December 28th, 2005||#20|
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