Topic: Can the Israeli Patriots/Arrow system defeat Iran's Shahabs?

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4 Weeks Ago   Post 1
Lunatik
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Post; Can the Israeli Patriots/Arrow system defeat Iran's Shahabs?


Iran says it'd retaliate against Israel and US bases in the area if/when it's attacked by either of teh two. What I wonder is how prepared Israel is in terms of missile defense. Can the Israeli Arrows and Patriots engage all Iranian missiles headed for the Israeli airspace?

According to FAS.org, Shahab 6 features a range of over 6,000 kilometers and can carry a 1,000 kilogram payload. Whoa! A few of those should be able to level Haifa even with conventional high explosive warheads.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/missile/shahab-6.htm
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 2
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It's about as strong as a MK84 I believe. Each large enough to destroy a large building. But this isn't really my forte...
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4 Weeks Ago   Post 3
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I dont think anyone here can tell you if the arrow will work since it was never fired operationaly. the patriot was **** in 1991 and did close to nothing, but who knows, with all the improvements.
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4 Weeks Ago   Post 4
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@13th

Yes, the MK84 is 2039 lb, which is 927 kg, almost as much high explosive as the Shahab 6. I don't know what sort of terminal guidance these missiles will feature but I don't think they'll have a CEP of less than 0.1%. It is unlikely that they'll have GPS/Galileo, let alone the military grade version, and gyro based INS alone can only guide to a city at best from 1,500 kilometers away. So, Iran would naturally use these for attacks on the general Israeli infrastructure/public.

@Sherman

You're right, Arrow is a mystery as of now. It 'sounds' good on paper but we'd never know whether it really is or not until it's deployed and used at least in a realistic ballistic test. Patriot did make a bad name for itself in the Gulf War but the PAC-3 is currently being marketed as a pretty capable defense system. It's deployed by many NATO countries.

Are the Israeli Patriots PAC-3 or an earlier version?


South Korean PAC-3
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 5
SHERMAN
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i dont know, im not much on air defence. but irecon they are the most advanced version, as thier whole perpouse is anti-missile
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 6
Lunatik
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Just found out. According to this source they've test fired a PAC-3 system:

http://rfdesign.com/military_defense..._missile_0109/

So yeah, I'd say the PAC-3 is what IAF operates.
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 7
the_13th_redneck
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Interesting. The guy in the picture is wearing a US Army uniform and the paint scheme on that Patriot isn't typical South Korean.
Maybe the guy is KATUSA, but I think that Patriot is American.
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 8
Lunatik
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13th, you're close. More specifically, the guy on the photo is Spc. Daniel Nebrida, from Battery C, 1st Battalion, 43rd Air Defense Artillery Regiment, 35th Air Defense Artillery Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division in Osan, South Korea, while performing a maintenance check on a Patriot missile proptecting Korean airspace. That photo appeared on www.army.mil.
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 9
the_13th_redneck
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With camouflage paint on his face? It's got to be some kind of exercise. I can't imagine anyone going outside to do a maintenance check on something with their face pasted green.
 
4 Weeks Ago   Post 10
Lunatik
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
With camouflage paint on his face? It's got to be some kind of exercise. I can't imagine anyone going outside to do a maintenance check on something with their face pasted green.
I don't know, so the guy who uploaded it claims. Maybe he just wanted to look tough while inspecting the launcher?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C...-04-085145.jpg

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