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February 25th, 2008   Post 1
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Post; Bush lobbies for surveillance law (AP)


AP - President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and Congress over terrorist surveillance grew increasingly sharp.



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February 25th, 2008   Post 2
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February 25th, 2008   Post 3
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not sure all this isn't bad. some is needed.
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March 30th, 2008   Post 4
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I personally have nothing to hide so if they wanna listen in thats fine, in the end we have no real say so in when and where they do anyway....
 
March 31st, 2008   Post 5
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March 31st, 2008   Post 6
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The law is a terrible idea, we have satellites that can read license plate numbers, so most terrorists are smart enough to know NEVER to use a telephone more than once, and many don't use phones at all. These people are not as dumb as you think they might be.

Furthermore it has stated over and over again the Feds have the right to wiretap with a warrant for 72 hours, that FISA has the ability to hand warrants within an hour. So there is absolutely no reason for this power, and in fact the FBI several years ago told the Justice Department that they didn't want this this first time the law was passed.

So why are the pushing the Bushies pushing this survaillance law, a law that provides for unlimited surveillance without supervision? Because it has NOTHING to do with terrorism it has to do of keeping an eye on society.

And before you all scoff, Remember 4 years ago, Tom Delay tracked the private aircraft of congressional Democrats using secret FAA transponder codes. So there is already precedent about government authorities using their surveillance powers to spy on ordinary Americans.

You can be sure its not the first time either...
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April 1st, 2008   Post 7
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Thats why I honestly believe law or no law they will do what they want and there isnt anything we can do because we will never know its happening.
 
April 1st, 2008   Post 8
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I don't know what's worse, that they're removing all the protections, or that people don't care.
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April 2nd, 2008   Post 9
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Originally Posted by major liability
I don't know what's worse, that they're removing all the protections, or that people don't care.
Very astute comment IMO.

Next they'll want to bug everyone's house..... Don't laugh, they already have the capability for audio feed, even when your phone is on the hook. Read "Spycatcher" by Peter Wright.
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April 2nd, 2008   Post 10
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How will they handle all that information though?
They want to use it to listen in on suspects... heck why not?
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