Topic: Burning the American Flag.

Damien435 · September 3rd, 2004

Should Americans be allowed to burn the American Flag in protest?

Keist IV · September 3rd, 2004

The American flag should not be burned for any reason if you ask me. The whole idea of protestors burning it even if it is for a political purpose is stupid. The flag represents more than just government. It represents our freedoms, our country, our way of life. If one does not agree with a political matter, then they should have their little riot or protest and hold up their mudslinging signs etc. etc. Due to the fact that the flag stands for more than just goverment and politics, to burn it means you hate the country itself. If you hate the country itself get the heck out of the country you hate so much and protest against it in some third world country that hates it too.

Pardon my venting and by saying "you" in the above wordings, I am not accusing anybody or saying the poster of this thread or a replier to this thread is that person "you" refers too.

Sea_Cadet · September 3rd, 2004

Th american flag can only be burnt for these two reasons If it is being retired, this is usually not done and if it falls on the ground, this is also usually not done by most.

Skinny · September 3rd, 2004

I do not believe the American Flag should ever be burned. Especially by an American. It is unbelievable when protestors burn Old Glory. They should be grateful that they live in a country where they are fortunate enough to be allowed to protest. People in some third world countries who speak out against their government would be executed. When Saddam Hussein was still the dictator of Iraq, for example.

godofthunder9010 · September 3rd, 2004

If the country that you're livin in ain't good enough for ya, go find another one. If you can't respect the symbols of the nation you live ... well, who asked you to stay, so get the hell out. I don't care what country you're living in, you don't desecrate the symbol of that nation.

Damien435 · September 3rd, 2004

Damn I wish some of you were on NationStates, someone else started a thread on there and everyone on that post thinks it should be burnt, they do not understand what the flag represents, they do not understand how many people that have died to defend everything the flag represents, they all think that burning the flag should be protected allowed. Then I pointed out that in most cases when the flag is burned people rarely remember what the people were protesting, only that they burned a flag in protest of something or another.

The flag should not be burned, not in protest anyways, if it is being retired that is one thing, or if it has been soiled, but to burn it in protest of the Fur industry is just wrong and criminal charges should follow. (I have only seen the flag burned twice by Americans, once to protest the Vietnam, and once to protest the use of fur.)

That is how I feel, others have a right to there opinion, but I don't ever want to see people burning the flag in protest of Iraq, especially if I am over there.

RnderSafe · September 3rd, 2004

Freedom of expression, gentlemen. If you take away an American's right to burn his flag - you're taking away some of his freedom. Freedom that men faught, bled and died for and continue to do as to preserve what was earned for us.

As citizen in service to my country, it bothers me greatly to see the flag burned in protest of whatever event they may be protesting - however, it would disturb me even more to see the some of very freedoms that make this country what it is, taken away.

Damien435 · September 4th, 2004

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Originally Posted by RnderSafe

Freedom of expression, gentlemen. If you take away an American's right to burn his flag - you're taking away some of his freedom. Freedom that men faught, bled and died for and continue to do as to preserve what was earned for us.

As citizen in service to my country, it bothers me greatly to see the flag burned in protest of whatever event they may be protesting - however, it would disturb me even more to see the some of very freedoms that make this country what it is, taken away.

Well, when I see people burning the flag I am still think of them as commies and traitors.

Catch 22, that is what we have here.

To not allow burning of the flag is to deny some of the very freedoms the flag represents.

But to burn the flag spits in the face of everything it stands for and every man and woman that fought for what the flag represents.

Skinny · September 4th, 2004

That's a good way to put it. Catch 22.

RnderSafe · September 4th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Damien435

But to burn the flag spits in the face of everything it stands for and every man and woman that fought for what the flag represents.

And taking their right to burn it away, would do exactly the same.

I have only encountered a few protests where the burning of the flag has taken place. In my few experiences, water works relatively well in handling the situation. Anyone that had a problem with it, was welcome to meet me on a side street - no one has taken the offer.
They have the right to burn, I have the right to douse.

View Poll Results :Should Americans be allowed to burn the flag in protest?
Yes, any cause. (i.e. Anti-Fur protestors)	4	9.09%
Yes, only if it is to protest government actions.	4	9.09%
No.	36	81.82%
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September 3rd, 2004	Post 1
Damien435 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Post; Burning the American Flag. Should Americans be allowed to burn the American Flag in protest? __________________ Please note that 98% of what I say is my opinion and/or my "version" of the facts. Most of what I say is rumor with little to no evidence to back it up, just something I picked up somewhere. My City

September 3rd, 2004	Post 2
Keist IV Optio	The American flag should not be burned for any reason if you ask me. The whole idea of protestors burning it even if it is for a political purpose is stupid. The flag represents more than just government. It represents our freedoms, our country, our way of life. If one does not agree with a political matter, then they should have their little riot or protest and hold up their mudslinging signs etc. etc. Due to the fact that the flag stands for more than just goverment and politics, to burn it means you hate the country itself. If you hate the country itself get the heck out of the country you hate so much and protest against it in some third world country that hates it too. Pardon my venting and by saying "you" in the above wordings, I am not accusing anybody or saying the poster of this thread or a replier to this thread is that person "you" refers too. __________________ Give me the proper tools to do my job and you will never hear from, see, or speak to me again.

September 3rd, 2004	Post 3
Sea_Cadet Primus Pilus	Th american flag can only be burnt for these two reasons If it is being retired, this is usually not done and if it falls on the ground, this is also usually not done by most. __________________ Honour.... Courage.... Commitment US Naval Academy \"Non sibi sed patriae!\" (Not for self, but country) US Navy

September 3rd, 2004	Post 4
Skinny Optio	I do not believe the American Flag should ever be burned. Especially by an American. It is unbelievable when protestors burn Old Glory. They should be grateful that they live in a country where they are fortunate enough to be allowed to protest. People in some third world countries who speak out against their government would be executed. When Saddam Hussein was still the dictator of Iraq, for example. __________________ Who? - Airborne How Far? - All The Way

September 3rd, 2004	Post 5
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	If the country that you're livin in ain't good enough for ya, go find another one. If you can't respect the symbols of the nation you live ... well, who asked you to stay, so get the hell out. I don't care what country you're living in, you don't desecrate the symbol of that nation. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

September 3rd, 2004	Post 6
Damien435 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Damn I wish some of you were on NationStates, someone else started a thread on there and everyone on that post thinks it should be burnt, they do not understand what the flag represents, they do not understand how many people that have died to defend everything the flag represents, they all think that burning the flag should be protected allowed. Then I pointed out that in most cases when the flag is burned people rarely remember what the people were protesting, only that they burned a flag in protest of something or another. The flag should not be burned, not in protest anyways, if it is being retired that is one thing, or if it has been soiled, but to burn it in protest of the Fur industry is just wrong and criminal charges should follow. (I have only seen the flag burned twice by Americans, once to protest the Vietnam, and once to protest the use of fur.) That is how I feel, others have a right to there opinion, but I don't ever want to see people burning the flag in protest of Iraq, especially if I am over there.

September 3rd, 2004	Post 7
RnderSafe Milforum Moderator	Freedom of expression, gentlemen. If you take away an American's right to burn his flag - you're taking away some of his freedom. Freedom that men faught, bled and died for and continue to do as to preserve what was earned for us. As citizen in service to my country, it bothers me greatly to see the flag burned in protest of whatever event they may be protesting - however, it would disturb me even more to see the some of very freedoms that make this country what it is, taken away.

September 4th, 2004	Post 9
Skinny Optio	That's a good way to put it. Catch 22.

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