Originally Posted by The Other Guy

Muslims in Britain/Mexican's in USA: In case you haven't noticed, you're not in your home country anymore. Which means you can't act like you do there and try to make this New Arabia!

Most (about 70%) Bristish Muslims are of South Asian descent, not Arab.

Originally Posted by MontyB

Then I would suggest that the best thing the Indonesian government can do is send them back to China at the earliest possible convenience.
I can understand people retaining their ethnic history no matter where they live but I cannot understand people choosing to be a citizen of one country while remaining loyal to another.

Tell me this if you knew the country you lived in would give you what ever you wanted just by you complaining wouldn't you take advantage of it in some way?
I am convinced these problems governmental ones and not complainant ones and until people grow a nut sack and make their governments tow the line then nothing will change, this is not just a British problem governments throughout the democratic world spend far too much time and resources pandering to minorities.

I hope you are not having a go at Aussies in NZ Monty

Originally Posted by MontyB

governments throughout the democratic world spend far too much time and resources pandering to minorities.

Naaaa - surely not. Muslims requiring pandering to??? This is the latest trial. Our NHS is vastly overstretched and in danger of collapse because of the being overloaded. Wards are being closed. Great numbers of people crowd into the country and look for benfits of all kinds. In our hospitals we have male and female mixed wards, and killer diseases through not being able to spend enough time on hygeine.

Meanwhile, our hard pushed trained nurses are having to spend time turning Muslim beds to face Mecca, FIVE TIMES a day, and provide clean washing water to each person on each occasion.

Have a nice day. And no, it doesn't make me angry it makes me ..... LAUGH!!


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Man of La Mancha

Originally Posted by The Other Guy

Muslims in Britain/Mexican's in USA: In case you haven't noticed, you're not in your home country anymore. Which means you can't act like you do there and try to make this New Arabia!

You do know that not all immigrants from Latin America are Mexican ....right?

yes... I'm just taking it one third-world country at a time!

Originally Posted by MontyB

I shouldn't have to point this out but you do realise you are comparing apples and oranges.

Mexico is a country and Mexicans immigrate to the USA (leagally and illegally), however Islam is a religion and Muslims are worldwide ie. Indonesia, Africa, Middle East, Europe (including Britain), USA etc. etc.

Therefore it is entirely possible that some of Britain's Muslim are in their home country which means they have every right to try and make it New Arabia however until they are a majority they probably wont get far.

If you are going to give TOG the lecture he might as well have the full story.

The difference currently between your 'apples' (Latin Americans) and your 'oranges' (Muslims) is that the first are a from a culture prepared to integrate, which they will, and the latter appear to have no interest in doing so, and belong to cultures very alien to Britain's;they have no regard for the sensitivities of other cultures, aggressively pursue seperateness and Islamic dominance, deliberately through population by legal and illegal increase. Unlike latin americans, they wage political and physical war upon civilians through unrest and the bomb. Islam has become not only a religion but also an ideology and a culture.

And to say that it is 'entirely possible' that some of them are in their home country is a very ridiculous and ignorant under-statement. Our biggest problem is with our traitorous and murderess 'home-growns'. What the hell do you think we are complaining about? R. Reid was homegrown. The Jul y7th bombers and all their slimy cells were home grown. And whilst mainstream Muslims may not support the methods of these men, a great many support their aims, to bring down our culture, from law to Christmas.

And the great self proclaimed libertarian MontyB supports their right to behave in this way, according to his latest lecture.

Tell it as it is, a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.

You know I would agree with you had you not missed the point entirely.

I will make it simple:
Mexicans = Nationality ie having a defined origin in this case Mexico.
Muslims = Religion and as such can be any nationality even British.

See it wasn't an overly technical point and it has nothing to do with integration as there would be no reason for British Muslims to integrate into their own country.

Still at least we agree on one thing a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Originally Posted by Padre

I hope you are not having a go at Aussies in NZ Monty

Why would I do that, Aussies are welcome here along with anyone that would benefit the country.

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''See it wasn't an overly technical point and it has nothing to do with integration as there would be no reason for British Muslims to integrate into their own country.'


Yes - regarding 'missing points' and little knowledge, the above says it all !

Quite unbelievable. You make my point for me. I suppose I should thank you.

Naaaaaa!



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Man of La Mancha.

[quote=Del Boy;384795]

Originally Posted by MontyB

''See it wasn't an overly technical point and it has nothing to do with integration as there would be no reason for British Muslims to integrate into their own country.'


Yes - regarding 'missing points' and little knowledge, the above says it all !

Quite unbelievable. You make my point for me. I suppose I should thank you.

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Man of La Mancha.

Well I guess someone has to make your points as you don't seem to be able to stick to one.
Still as they say "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" so thanks.

Anyway back to you to come up with yet another thinly hidden insult about "intelligence" rather than actually defending your point of view or actually making a point still I guess thats your style.

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Originally Posted by Del Boy

"Anyway back to you to come up with yet another thinly hidden insult about "intelligence" rather than actually defending your point of view or actually making a point still I guess thats your style.

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Oooooh! Smile when you say that.

I repeat my last post - you are quite unbelievable. You continually make the above accusation but its nothing but empty bombast ; be careful - you might start believing it yourself. Please don't brand others with your little agendas. If you have anything to provide on the subject , cough it up; if not, butt out. Simple as that. But please spare me the nonsense.

Clear the way there - back to the thread.

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