Topic: *Britain-France

MightyMacbeth · January 26th, 2006

I was wondering, which country has a "better" military.
I dont know if any could help in posting the evidence..say for example, giving the info like:

-military men available?
-training?
-Technology?
-Military equipment used?
-Vehicles used? How much? How good?
-military spending/ money spent on defence?

and the like

thanx

LeEnfield · January 26th, 2006

Britain has one of the most professional Armies in Europe. The French still have a bigger army but I am not sure if they have yet ended conscription.

gladius · January 26th, 2006

I would rank the British military second most powerful in the free world.

godofthunder9010 · January 26th, 2006

The two run somewhat equally to one another. The best reasons to rate the UK over France: 1.) Stronger Navy potentially enables Britain to freely deploy their forces into more situations. 2.) The British Armed Forces have had more recent large-scale combat experience.

msgtmedleyusmc · January 26th, 2006

Between the two, my money is on Britain until France proves otherwise. A great philosopher once said: "To be the man, you've gotta beat the man".

phoenix80 · January 26th, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeEnfield

Britain has one of the most professional Armies in Europe. The French still have a bigger army but I am not sure if they have yet ended conscription.

Yes, they ended the conscription in mid 90s.

MightyMacbeth · January 26th, 2006

hmm, I see all your points..
And yeah, Britain has more experience in wars and has a better navy for ages..

And if possible, mention why you chose the country you did

Also, I also hoped if any would have any of the info I mentioned in my first post or something leading to it.

msgtmedleyusmc · January 26th, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMacbeth

And if possible, mention why you chose the country you did

Well, it is almost possible to compare based on any public info, so I went with history. Britain is pretty much undefeated (straight up and against the spread) vs. France since 1066.

MightyMacbeth · January 27th, 2006

yes true.. but then look at the hundred years war after..but thats ancient history

I am sure there has to be some place giving info though..

mmarsh · January 27th, 2006

The French Military is quiet good (probably top 5) but I consider the British Military to be the best in the world, even better than the US.

I disagree about the NAVY, heres why. The Royal Navy ships have historically been inferior to the Spanish, French, and Dutch. Its crews were also less motivated as most were forced conscripts, while the NL, FR SP were all volenteers. What made the RN so successful was the quality of its officiers. A tradition that still exsists today.

Speaking today. WWII proved that naval battles would be determined by airpower. The British made a terrible mistake in trading traditional fleet carriers for S/VOTL carriers. S/VTOL aircraft such as the Harrier MK.1/MK.2 the Yak-38, and Yak-141 simply cannot compete against modern carrier aircraft. The RN as acknolowed this and as is returning to a CVN program (in conjection with the French set for 2007). The FN like the USN never liked VTOL and stuck with tradition carriers Clamenceau, Foch and Charles De Gaulle. Thats a 40 year head start the French have. I mentioned the FN-RN program. The advantage for the RN is that they can pick up some experiance off the French while the French will pick up a new carrier or 2 after the De gaulle turned out to be such a fiasco...

January 26th, 2006	Post 1
MightyMacbeth ICBM Gear	Post; Britain-France I was wondering, which country has a "better" military. I dont know if any could help in posting the evidence..say for example, giving the info like: -military men available? -training? -Technology? -Military equipment used? -Vehicles used? How much? How good? -military spending/ money spent on defence? and the like thanx __________________ ~when a man does his best, what else is there?* Gen.George S.Patton

January 26th, 2006	Post 2
LeEnfield Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	Britain has one of the most professional Armies in Europe. The French still have a bigger army but I am not sure if they have yet ended conscription. __________________ LeEnfield Rides again

January 26th, 2006	Post 4
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	The two run somewhat equally to one another. The best reasons to rate the UK over France: 1.) Stronger Navy potentially enables Britain to freely deploy their forces into more situations. 2.) The British Armed Forces have had more recent large-scale combat experience. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

January 26th, 2006	Post 5
msgtmedleyusmc Milites Gregarius	Between the two, my money is on Britain until France proves otherwise. A great philosopher once said: "To be the man, you've gotta beat the man". __________________ Damn, damn, damn the insurrectos!

January 26th, 2006	Post 3
gladius Primus Pilus	I would rank the British military second most powerful in the free world.

January 26th, 2006	Post 7
MightyMacbeth ICBM Gear	hmm, I see all your points.. And yeah, Britain has more experience in wars and has a better navy for ages.. And if possible, mention why you chose the country you did Also, I also hoped if any would have any of the info I mentioned in my first post or something leading to it.

January 27th, 2006	Post 9
MightyMacbeth ICBM Gear	yes true.. but then look at the hundred years war after..but thats ancient history I am sure there has to be some place giving info though..

January 27th, 2006	Post 10
mmarsh Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	The French Military is quiet good (probably top 5) but I consider the British Military to be the best in the world, even better than the US. I disagree about the NAVY, heres why. The Royal Navy ships have historically been inferior to the Spanish, French, and Dutch. Its crews were also less motivated as most were forced conscripts, while the NL, FR SP were all volenteers. What made the RN so successful was the quality of its officiers. A tradition that still exsists today. Speaking today. WWII proved that naval battles would be determined by airpower. The British made a terrible mistake in trading traditional fleet carriers for S/VOTL carriers. S/VTOL aircraft such as the Harrier MK.1/MK.2 the Yak-38, and Yak-141 simply cannot compete against modern carrier aircraft. The RN as acknolowed this and as is returning to a CVN program (in conjection with the French set for 2007). The FN like the USN never liked VTOL and stuck with tradition carriers Clamenceau, Foch and Charles De Gaulle. Thats a 40 year head start the French have. I mentioned the FN-RN program. The advantage for the RN is that they can pick up some experiance off the French while the French will pick up a new carrier or 2 after the De gaulle turned out to be such a fiasco...

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