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May 10th, 2011   #1
axxe
 

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What's Boot camp for the Marines like?
 
May 10th, 2011   #2
Big_T87
 
This is the basics... Hope it helps! And Marine boot is the hardest of the services (this comes from the guys at ROTC back in college)

http://www.mcrdpi.usmc.mil/training/schedule.asp

Make sure to click on the links on the right, it goes in depth over each event (hikes, ranges, etc...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...cruit_Training

Last edited by Big_T87; May 10th, 2011 at 20:03.. Reason: Adding Information
 
May 11th, 2011   #3
axxe
 
thanks alot
 
June 28th, 2011   #4
greenlantern11b
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_T87
And Marine boot is the hardest of the services (this comes from the guys at ROTC back in college)
I didn't even bother with your link but thats ridiculous and incorrect. Please stop spreading false rumors.


The USMC integrates their non combat MOS(soft skills/pogs/etc) with the meat eaters.

The Army seperates them from the Beginning.

Edge: US ARMY

USMC Bootcamp is 13wks(so they claim) Theres a week in the beginning for inprocessing, and a week at the end for cleaning up/turning your gear in and getting ready for graduation. That brings that down to 11wks. Lets also take away a week for swimming. Thats 10 wks....

The US Armys Infantry OSUT is 13wks 6 days(lets just round to 14)...
so 14wks-17wks based upon the infantry MOS you get.

Edge: US ARMY

In USMC bootcamp everyone gets an m16. About 9lbs fully loaded.

In the US Army Infantrys OSUT(one station unit training) you're LUCKY if you get the m16. You see.... we train how we fight. People within your platoon will be assigned the m249 about 23lbs fully loaded.
The real unlucky will be lugging around the M240B(27.6lbs)

Edge: US ARMY

USMC bootcamp primarily focuses on Drill and Ceremony. They spend... not sure but a RIDICULOUS amount of time on D&C... they do march better than us though.

The Army says **** D&C. Here's a 5-10min class while we wait for your buddies to get out the PX with their hygiene ****.

Edge: US ARMY

Marines PT test consist of(these are the MINIMUM stadards for an 18YO MALE):

3 Pullups or Chinups(your choice. Unlimited time), 53 crunches(2 minutes but they don't do real situps), 27minute 3mile run


Army PT Test consist of(same min requirements for 18yo male)

42 pushups in 2 minutes
53 situps in 2 minutes(actual situps)
2mile in in 15:45

EDGE: ARMY... lets do some more rounding. That means Marines are given 11 MINUTES TO RUN ONE MORE MILE. Once again; are you serious?

USMC Shoots giant bullseye targets 500yards. They don't even have to hit inside the black... they get points for touching the paper. Are you serious? My GRANDMA can WALK that.

Army shoots timed pop up silouhette targets, 300m. Its up anywhere from 2-5seconds depending on the distance. You have to acquire, and hit before it goes down.

Edge: USMC... just based on distance. I think the reaction factor and the smaller target for the Army is harder but Im trying to be fair


Most of your training will come from your unit. Marines still have to go to School of Infantry(the infantry marines because the marines realize that infantrymen NEEd to be seperated from the rest obviously...)

The Army gets you to your unit Faster.

Edge: ARMY

The Marines dreaded "Crucible" a 3 day(54hr) field training exercise where they perform teamwork tasks, ruck marches, and hopefully missions. They were their flick, carry a m16 and from what i've seen on the documentary a ruck. Feel free to correct me Marines


The Armys FTX(even for pogs I believe) is 1week(168hrs) in the field. Includes; ruck marching, being briefed, performing missions with the OPORDs given, etc. Our team building stuff is done earlier on. Our entire kit is worn(molly vest, IBa, ACH, m16/m249/240 were switched out) etc...

Edge: You already know...



seriously USMC bootcamp is NOT the hardest. None of them are "hard". Simply search about military.com or w/e that military website is. They have the attrition rate for each branches basic/bootcamp. Marines have a HIGHER Passing rate than the Army

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joini...asicattrit.htm
 
June 28th, 2011   #5
Big_Z
 
 
You have to take all of the Marine comments with a grain of salt battle. The typical civilian and foriegner sucks up every piece of Marine hyperbole they see.


Infantry leads......
 
June 28th, 2011   #6
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlantern11b
I didn't even bother with your link but thats ridiculous and incorrect. Please stop spreading false rumors.


The USMC integrates their non combat MOS(soft skills/pogs/etc) with the meat eaters.

The Army seperates them from the Beginning.

Edge: US ARMY

USMC Bootcamp is 13wks(so they claim) Theres a week in the beginning for inprocessing, and a week at the end for cleaning up/turning your gear in and getting ready for graduation. That brings that down to 11wks. Lets also take away a week for swimming. Thats 10 wks....

The US Armys Infantry OSUT is 13wks 6 days(lets just round to 14)...
so 14wks-17wks based upon the infantry MOS you get.

Edge: US ARMY

In USMC bootcamp everyone gets an m16. About 9lbs fully loaded.

In the US Army Infantrys OSUT(one station unit training) you're LUCKY if you get the m16. You see.... we train how we fight. People within your platoon will be assigned the m249 about 23lbs fully loaded.
The real unlucky will be lugging around the M240B(27.6lbs)

Edge: US ARMY

USMC bootcamp primarily focuses on Drill and Ceremony. They spend... not sure but a RIDICULOUS amount of time on D&C... they do march better than us though.

The Army says **** D&C. Here's a 5-10min class while we wait for your buddies to get out the PX with their hygiene ****.

Edge: US ARMY

Marines PT test consist of(these are the MINIMUM stadards for an 18YO MALE):

3 Pullups or Chinups(your choice. Unlimited time), 53 crunches(2 minutes but they don't do real situps), 27minute 3mile run


Army PT Test consist of(same min requirements for 18yo male)

42 pushups in 2 minutes
53 situps in 2 minutes(actual situps)
2mile in in 15:45

EDGE: ARMY... lets do some more rounding. That means Marines are given 11 MINUTES TO RUN ONE MORE MILE. Once again; are you serious?

USMC Shoots giant bullseye targets 500yards. They don't even have to hit inside the black... they get points for touching the paper. Are you serious? My GRANDMA can WALK that.

Army shoots timed pop up silouhette targets, 300m. Its up anywhere from 2-5seconds depending on the distance. You have to acquire, and hit before it goes down.

Edge: USMC... just based on distance. I think the reaction factor and the smaller target for the Army is harder but Im trying to be fair


Most of your training will come from your unit. Marines still have to go to School of Infantry(the infantry marines because the marines realize that infantrymen NEEd to be seperated from the rest obviously...)

The Army gets you to your unit Faster.

Edge: ARMY

The Marines dreaded "Crucible" a 3 day(54hr) field training exercise where they perform teamwork tasks, ruck marches, and hopefully missions. They were their flick, carry a m16 and from what i've seen on the documentary a ruck. Feel free to correct me Marines


The Armys FTX(even for pogs I believe) is 1week(168hrs) in the field. Includes; ruck marching, being briefed, performing missions with the OPORDs given, etc. Our team building stuff is done earlier on. Our entire kit is worn(molly vest, IBa, ACH, m16/m249/240 were switched out) etc...

Edge: You already know...



seriously USMC bootcamp is NOT the hardest. None of them are "hard". Simply search about military.com or w/e that military website is. They have the attrition rate for each branches basic/bootcamp. Marines have a HIGHER Passing rate than the Army

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joini...asicattrit.htm

Soooooo when you went through both services recruit training.....wait ? What?


Sgt. Rafael Peralta ,United States Marine Corps
Company A, 1st Bn, 3rd Marine Regt, 3rd Marine Divison

We will never forget your valor and sacrifice.

Semper Fi !
 
June 28th, 2011   #7
Big_T87
 
Quote:
The US Armys Infantry OSUT is 13wks 6 days(lets just round to 14)...
so 14wks-17wks based upon the infantry MOS you get.
Here is the Army Boot Training Schedule, 9 weeks, not 13 like you stated above
http://www.benning.army.mil/infantry...aining/bct.asp
*Edit* There is 14 week as an option, not all units do that training.

Here is the Marine Schedule, 12 weeks, yes two of those weeks are ceremonies and in-process make sure to read what is done in each training camp.
http://www.mcrdpi.usmc.mil/training/schedule.asp

I have several good friends that are Marines, just like several that were Army. One Marine is currently serving in Iraq in a K-9 search Unit, I appreciate his service every day. At the same time I have a long time friend who is Army Special Forces and yes his training was harder. But I am specifying Boot Camp on here, not going into individual assignment trainings.

Last edited by Big_T87; June 28th, 2011 at 21:57.. Reason: Adding note
 
June 28th, 2011   #8
Big_T87
 
I wanted to add also,
I'm not trying to give any branches a bad name or call anybody a wimp. I apologize if I offended anyone. I just gave this kid the factual Marine site for what the training was gonna be like. It helps to read an actual schedule and to read through the events, than to hear from tons of different personal accounts. Everyone is different. Some think Army was harder, some say Marines is, etc...
 
June 30th, 2011   #9
implicature
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_T87
I wanted to add also,
I'm not trying to give any branches a bad name or call anybody a wimp. I apologize if I offended anyone. I just gave this kid the factual Marine site for what the training was gonna be like. It helps to read an actual schedule and to read through the events, than to hear from tons of different personal accounts. Everyone is different. Some think Army was harder, some say Marines is, etc...
You ain't hurtin anybody's feelings on here. It is just one big pissing contest regardless of the branch you go in. Look at all branches and pick the one that give you what you want out of it. EVERY singe experience is different no matter if you graduated from boot camp as rack mates it won't be the same. You will know exactly what boot camp is like the day you march on to the grinder and get called a Marine or soldier for the first time. Just be sure you want it before you go. It doesn't matter what others say.


If you don't make your own decisions someone else will.
If you don't make yourself happy... no one else will.

If you want to make God laugh just tell him your plans!
 
July 1st, 2011   #10
brinktk
 
 
What this kid fails to mention is that US Army OSUT is basic training and AIT combined into one experience. So yes it is longer. Marine grunts go through their boot, 12 weeks, and then they go through the school of infantry...their version of AIT. I WILL say that a Marine getting to his unit is generally better trained than a soldier. That's just a fact. After about 2 years I think it levels out....here's the difference, the Marines have certain mindset that the Army does not have. I'm not saying it's better or worse, it's just different. That's just my two cents. I love and hate Marines...they're cocky yes....but they can back it up in a firefight so they've earned the right. I was honored to serve along side them in Fallujah and Ramadi back in 04.
 



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