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Topic: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet |
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| 100% Space Shuttle Door Gunner | Post; Bill would give president emergency control of InternetQuote:
What the other side would be saying if Bush were still President.... | |
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| Je suis aware |
The question is, what would you say if Bush was trying to impliment this and what are you saying now?
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| Centurion | Quote:
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| Tribunus Laticlavius |
First of all the title smells of scare tactics, its not quite that bad we you read it closely. The Bill allows the president to disconnect critical US private-sector networks off the internet (hint: Wall Street). This might be necessary if for example Chinese Hackers decided to damage or bring down the US Financial System network or shutdown the electrical Power-grid via a DDOS attack, or perhaps to stop a system wide infiltration of a critical system by a virus. Don't you think it might be necessary for the President to have the power to pull the plug in such a emergency to protect key infrustructure? I do, even Bush. The Bill does not say he would take control of the entire internet, because that's physically impossible. How could Obama disconnect systems not located in US territory short of a nuke strike? There is a term in a IT we call routing, it refers to the way traffic is vectored to its destination. If a route is cut off (say due to a equipment failure), internet traffic is detoured via other routes which are hard-coded into the routers themselves. In this very unlikely case IP addresses in the US would fail, but not worldwide. The worst a president could do would be to take control of icann (the independent entity that distributes IP addresses), that would cause IP organization havoc but it wouldn't physical shut down the internet. It would cause a major international incident and cause other governments simply to setup the organization elsewhere and business would continue as usual. A government can only shut off its own internet access like Iran and China have done, but it cannot stop what goes on outside its borders.
__________________ "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch I get this question a lot. I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work for the Paris Office of a International company. Last edited by mmarsh; August 29th, 2009 at 01:18.. |
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| Centurion |
What were the Iranians doing with internet access when it became annoying?
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Quote:
Last edited by mmarsh; August 29th, 2009 at 01:17.. | |
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Quote:
Surely you realise you have elected the Anti-Christ and in 2012 he will personally bring about the galactic alignment to destroy the world and worst of all I have even heard rumours that he may be black. Ok will stop now. PS. I probably needed to slot the term "International Jewery" and "Islamofascists" in there somewhere to improve the credibility of my post but I don't have time right now I am eating lunch.
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| Spam King | Quote:
To use the popular right wing terminology about such acts, if you're not doing anything illegal you have nothing to worry about!
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| Tirones |
Obama is afraid of the truth because it destroys his poll numbers. Limiting or baning negative opinions is paramount now for the administration to complete its goals. Similar to the alien and sedition bill back in the 18th century.
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| Je suis aware |
I actually could see the merits in the Patriot Act and why in an age where the enemy is increasingly elusive and invisible, information gathering is absolutely paramount. Especially as a response to the gutting of US intelligence assets in the 90's I think it has its merits. Has its flaws too but most of the "scary" stuff has an expiration date (as far as I know). This sort of stuff actually will not affect folks who are not crazy about blowing up the USA. The more annoying and scary intelligence gathering is already being done by companies world wide who are trying to find customers. They will get your phone number from some sort of source, call you without your permission, usually when you're having dinner. Scared of the US government's database on you? The private sector's got it as well and I bet they run it better than the government does. The ability to disconnect an individual or an organization from the internet is kinda small compared to the Patriot Act... so much so that it reads an awful like it would belong to one of the numerous sections covered by the Patriot Act. |
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