" Not to denigrate the OP, or the contributors to this thread (and bearing in mind I'm an ex-APC Driver turned Cav Scout, not a MBT crewie), but I think as time goes on, questions like this are going to become more and more irrelevant; it'll be less of a case of "Who's got the best tank design?" and more of a case of "Who trains their tank crews the best?"

At the end of the day, we can list those current gen MBTs which have been battle tested and which haven't. But I don't think it matters too much what the match up is anymore. The crew that's the better trained, with a better firing position, who get first round up the tube and a First Hit On Target are going to be the ones still alive to tell warries as they prop up the bar...."

No offense or anything but PLEASE!!! O' course training plays a big part, I certainly agree. But technology is more important than ever. You could have the best tank crews in the world in lets say an M1...up against a tank with ATGMs. Kinda evens odds a bit hmmm?

the problem again is, we cant know becuase these will never go up against each other

and it's also, but the main problem comparison of the tanks consist in that some of them were not baptism of fire. Actually, we can estimate T-90, Merkava IV and Abrams (M1A1, M1A2). But who is the best? it's an incorrect question, because T-90 costs about 3 million $ and Abrams - 12. They were created for performs of the different purposes, the T-90 is a assault tank while the Abrams or Merkava are defensive tanks.

Go Leopard 2! Go!

I go for the Merkava.
I have a question though, does it really have an internal mortar like i read?
If he has he may be superior in urban enviroment in comparison with the other tanks?

It need to be revived for a reason.

The gear employed will never be better than the Soldiers that employ it.

Training, Discipline, and the right kind of Crazy are much harder to defeat than nifty doo-dads. Unless you have the raw numbers to swamp the gomers hard.

Originally Posted by VikingHaaG

I go for the Merkava.
I have a question though, does it really have an internal mortar like i read?
If he has he may be superior in urban enviroment in comparison with the other tanks?

I have never read nor heard anything about a mortar inside of a Merkava, but it might be true, however, these comparisons are a strange, it would be better to discuss the doctrines surrounding the use of MBTs and the mechanized warfare. I don't think there is so much difference between the top-tanks in the world. I voted for the Challenger II, I have no experience of it, but from what I have seen, I like it, although, I like the Leo II, The Abrams, the Merkava, and the Leclerc as well. All of them are good MBTs, perhaps the South Korean and the new Japanese tanks are good too. Especially the South Korean, they are in the cross hairs from the guys up north and they put a lot into their military, they share some features with Israel, to defend their country and not to export it

Well the M! is definetely battle proven I have heard that the leclerc is pretty awesome. Also heard it has the fastest reverse of any tank out there lol jk just a joke

The Challenger........It has fought in all main battles along side the American forces and it has not lost a tank in action regardless what missiles have hit it. The only serious damage it suffered when a Challenger got lost in a sand storm and was shot up by another Challenger. One of the them was recorded to have been hit by some 50 rocket grenades and the crew was not injured. Some 300 of them were deployed in Iraq. Yet it hardly ever gets a mention any where even though no Challenger has been lost on the battlefield

Main battle tank T - 90 manufactured in the Russian Federation is characterized by a number of things from my point of view and that's what made ​​me chose
1 - they are light Fosenh about 46 tons
2 - it has a cannon of the caliber of 125 mm
3 - laser-guided missiles that use the property of the laser beam is not wide and half the laser active and is located in the Western tanks in general and the laser is active half the forces to be warning alarms Alliz
4 - low tower in general
6 - the operational range of the large compared with the rest of the tanks
This is my point of view a full

I think the challenger 2 the best too, it has the best armor and a place to make tea.