Topic: The Best Cold War Bomber?

Rufus Excalibur · September 10th, 2004

Vulcan everytime. Most classic design of an aircraft that you could wish to see. In 1961, 30% of the total western nuclear deterrent was British. Then along came better SAMS and the Force of 150 bombers and there Yellow Sun Nukes were consigned to History.

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Airborne Eagle · September 10th, 2004

Gotta go with the BUF.

Designed in the 1950s by guys with slide rules, retrofitted with AAMs (later, removed), still in service today.

Longevity, payload, bang for the buck.

Had it all.

godofthunder9010 · September 10th, 2004

Of course, the Valkyrie had TREMENDOUS potential as a supersonic bomber. Well ahead of its time and it could have been a great success. I always manage to forget its "B" designation though.

Lil Hulk 1988 · September 11th, 2004

The Backfire and Blackjack from Russia were probably the best. They caused a large amount of R&D in our own interceptors and missles just because of their existence and they were true supersonic bombers.

c/Commander · September 11th, 2004

How many B-2s have been shot down? 0? That makes it the best bomber...zero attrition rate.

SHERMAN · September 11th, 2004

The B-2 is not really a cold war bomber...How many B52s got shot down?

Doppleganger · September 11th, 2004

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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

Of course, the Valkyrie had TREMENDOUS potential as a supersonic bomber. Well ahead of its time and it could have been a great success. I always manage to forget its "B" designation though.

Yup, it could have been up there with the great bombers but it was plagued with ill fortune (remember the Phantom crashing into one of the prototypes mid-flight back in 1971).

Six · September 11th, 2004

The designation was the XB-70 Valkyrie. Actually, it was a NASA F-104 that crashed into the prototype, and it was in 1966, not 1971. If it had been operational, it probably would have been the best cold war aircraft. There was and still is no combat aircraft that can match its operational top speed of Mach 3.08.

SHERMAN · September 11th, 2004

True, but a Mig-25 can do 2.83, and fire a Missile that will catch up with the XB70....

Doppleganger · September 11th, 2004

I think the Valkyrie was actually cancelled because of the Soviet's development of the Mig 25 'Foxbat'. Not only was the Mig 25 very fast, it also had a very high altitude ceiling.

View Poll Results :The Best Bomber of the Cold War?
B-29	1	6.25%
Vulcan	3	18.75%
B-52 Stratofortress	7	43.75%
Victor	0	0%
Valiant	0	0%
B-2 Spirit	3	18.75%
B-1 Lancer (AKA "Bone&quot	2	12.50%
B-47 Stratojet	0	0%
B-36 Peacemaker	0	0%
Russian: Bison	0	0%
Russian: Blackjack	0	0%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

September 10th, 2004	Post 1
Rufus Excalibur Milites Gregarius	Post; The Best Cold War Bomber? Vulcan everytime. Most classic design of an aircraft that you could wish to see. In 1961, 30% of the total western nuclear deterrent was British. Then along came better SAMS and the Force of 150 bombers and there Yellow Sun Nukes were consigned to History. Mod Edit:Moved to hardware... Mode Edit: Added aircraft to Poll... :D

September 10th, 2004	Post 2
Airborne Eagle Centurion	Gotta go with the BUF. Designed in the 1950s by guys with slide rules, retrofitted with AAMs (later, removed), still in service today. Longevity, payload, bang for the buck. Had it all. __________________

September 10th, 2004	Post 3
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Of course, the Valkyrie had TREMENDOUS potential as a supersonic bomber. Well ahead of its time and it could have been a great success. I always manage to forget its "B" designation though. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

September 11th, 2004	Post 4
Lil Hulk 1988 Centurion	Post; None Listed.... The Backfire and Blackjack from Russia were probably the best. They caused a large amount of R&D in our own interceptors and missles just because of their existence and they were true supersonic bombers. __________________ \"U.S. Marines are about the most peculiar breed of human beings I have ever known. They treat their service as if it was some kind of cult, plastering their emblem on almost everythng they own, making themselves up to look like insane fanatics...., *which I have come to the conclusion they are!*\" -- An Anonymous Canadian Citizen

September 11th, 2004	Post 5
c/Commander Primus Pilus Gear	How many B-2s have been shot down? 0? That makes it the best bomber...zero attrition rate. __________________ Midshipman 3/C, USNR

September 11th, 2004	Post 6
SHERMAN Milforum Moderator	The B-2 is not really a cold war bomber...How many B52s got shot down? __________________ In the roar of engines, in the thunder of cannons,in the comradship of blood!

September 11th, 2004	Post 8
Six Milites Gregarius	The designation was the XB-70 Valkyrie. Actually, it was a NASA F-104 that crashed into the prototype, and it was in 1966, not 1971. If it had been operational, it probably would have been the best cold war aircraft. There was and still is no combat aircraft that can match its operational top speed of Mach 3.08.

September 11th, 2004	Post 9
SHERMAN Milforum Moderator	True, but a Mig-25 can do 2.83, and fire a Missile that will catch up with the XB70....

September 11th, 2004	Post 10
Doppleganger Tribuni Angusticlavii	I think the Valkyrie was actually cancelled because of the Soviet's development of the Mig 25 'Foxbat'. Not only was the Mig 25 very fast, it also had a very high altitude ceiling.

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