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| Primus Pilus | Post; BBC;US reports China missile build-uphttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4698655.stm Quote:
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| Milforum's Bouncer | ICBM's are not the wares of a defensive force.
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | Quote:
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| Nuclear Duck Hunter ![]() | Actually, they're both but I like to call them deterrents. Hey, we, America, have installed quarters for Women in the once cramped silos, now they can powder their noses in peace.
__________________ “War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” —John Stuart Mill Last edited by Missileer; March 19th, 2006 at 16:56. |
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| Banned ![]() | China has about 50 ICBMs (mostly older generations) is that enough to form effective deterance against other nuke powers (50 unreliable missiles....) definitely no... I think China should get an upgrade...I mean at least make other nuke powers to take China seriously |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | An ICBM is and of itself an offensive weapon. It is used to decimate infrastructures. Its only defensive property is in the MAD, Mutally Assured Destruction idea, hardly a reassuring thought. A Patriot missile is a defensive weapon. A SCUD is offensive. A SAM is a defensive weapon. A Maverick is offensive. We can do this all day... Now, Chi-Can, if, as you claim in your other post on another thread, China is "all about doing business" and making money why is it that they need nuclear missiles in order to be taken seriously? Japan does not have any nuclear capability and the entire world takes them seriously. |
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| Banned ![]() | Each nation has its own nuclear doctrine. China's doctrine is never using it first,but definitely retaliate if others hit China. However, current missiles (50 of them, mostly first generation, unreliable ones) cannot ensure that after beng hit, China still has the effective capability to retaliate. If CHina really wants to destroy a nation with ICBMs (clearly, that means China wants to hit either Europe or U.S, because otherwise the long-range), is 50 enough? if we minus the possiblity of missile failture, missile-defence system, and the fact that if China's mere 50 missiles are all likely destroyed during the first wave of attack by the enemy. |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Perhaps you missed the question. Quote:
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| Banned ![]() | By saying "taken seriously", I mean when a nation wants to nuke China (since China's doctrine is to never use it first), the nation will not be scared of the consequences because China's mere old 50 ICBMs will likely pose no threat of effective retaliation... I apologize for my lack of elaboration for that "taken seriously" clause. |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Japan has no nuclear weapons and the whole world takes it seriously. WHY does China need nuclear weapons to be taken seriously? |
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