About Army or Marines?
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Army or Marines? info
Another I have worry is corrected vision. I wear contacts... do they accept people with corrected vision to be put in the field? I've been told that a sniper is not allowed to have corrected vision, however I have heard of snipers in Vietnam who wore glasses. I am completely confused on the matter.
I'm not worried about Basic... I am actually looking forward to it. I partly want to join the Marine Corps because of the longer boot camp and the crucible, but I do have a few questions about it. Firstly, I am wondering how long the initial fear lasts. By the next morning has most of it worn off or do you continue to shake in your boots through the entire thing? Secondly I am wondering if the movies I have seen are accurate. I've been told that a drill instructor is not allowed to hit you, however in movies like 'Full Metal Jacket' the recruits are punched numerous times, and my friend's father (a Marine who fought in Vietnam) confirmed the accuracy of this movie. Is it true? Do they hit you?
Sorry for the long post, but thanks for taking the time to read it. I'm pretty unsteady about my future.
|March 4th, 2004||#2|
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Dude, relax. Basic training (Army) or Boot Camp (Marines) is pretty easy. As long as you keep focused, it's a breeze. The second that YOU quit, they quit on you.
It seems like you already made up your mind to join the Marines, and if so, then kudos. You really wouldn't have made a bad choice either way.
As far as US Army snipers, once you are in an Infantry Battalion, you can request to go to sniper school. Be aware, there is probably an Order Of Merit List, so you will have to wait your turn.
As far as contact lenses goes, Army personnel are not allowed to wear contact lenses in a field environment. That's not to say you can't wear your Army-issued BC (Birth Control) Goggles, so-called because youwill NEVER get laid wearing them in public.
In the modern US Military, cadre are not allowed to physically abuse recruits. All that Hollywood stuff might have applied twenty years ago, but not today.
\"Each man will charge forward to the very end, irrespective of the cost in casualties. There will be no halt and no retreat. There will only be the assault and the advance. - Gen Israel Tal Israel,1967\"
|March 4th, 2004||#3|
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If you're ultimate goal is to become a sniper, and that is the main reason you are joining, don't join at all.
If you want to serve your country, and eventually have hopes of becoming a sniper and feel you wouldn't want to serve more than four years without the designator, go Army. You'll have a better chance (if you're infantry) of getting a slot at Benning sniper school. You'll have to qualify, and then be selected. If you want more detailed training, you would have to be in SOF; Rangers, SF.
If you want to be a Marine, go into the Marine Corps. Right now, you have little or no chance of getting S/S in the Corps. That isn't to say in four years you won't have a chance, but you better be happy with being a Marine grunt.
As for BCT/Boot camp .. they can't hit you, they aren't even supposed to curse anymore .. and God forbid they deny you a head call. Thanks to all of the cry baby tattletails and their rich Mommy's and Daddy's out there.
As to your vision, it depeneds on what your sight is. I wore contacts during sniper school. My eyes kept getting infected from the dirt, and my classes were scratched all to hell .. so I ended up using the optics to compensate. It was never a problem.
Make sure you talk to both an Army and Marine recruiter .. find out what information you can from them. A lot of your questions can be answered that way, and whatever is left .. you can find active or prior service to assit you with.
Your screen name would lead one to believe you were already a sniper .. may want to rethink that.
|March 4th, 2004||#4|
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Thanks for the info everyone.
\"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.\" - TR
|March 4th, 2004||#6|
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You'll be fine if you really want it. But I know Marine boot camp is hell. It will be hard and it's supposed to be, but if that's what you want, you'll make it. However, be prepared to be punched in the face, choked, etc. I know 2 guys who just got back from Parris Island a couple weeks ago and they said it happened all the time. Plus the fear thing. It lasts, believe me it lasts! But you can make it through! That's the biggest thing. These guys said they saw people wetting their pants in front of the DIs almost every day, literally. But don't let that scare you! They absolutely loved it and thought it was the best thing for them. So if that's what you want go for it all the way!
An edit on the physical violence thing. They can only hit you if you bring your hands above your waist when they are within a certain number of feet of you. So as long as you learn quickly about things like that you'll be fine.
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|March 5th, 2004||#10|
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Ok.... 'nother question just entered my head. Not that it's much of a concern, but what if you simply cannot do the given ammout of pushups or situps? If you're told to do 50 pushups and you're a faot oaf and simply cannot do them, what do they do? My thought is that people can always be pushed hard enough to do the required amount. I know i would be, but still...