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April 21st, 2004   #31
USMC Johnny
 

Snipers info


Snipers are bad news, we had some Scout Snipers around were I was stationed at.

But for me, I could not be a sniper, I just prefer to blow **** up with C-4(Combat Eng. 101) LOL

But Snipers are bad ass, just not for me


Lance Corporal Johnny D
 
April 21st, 2004   #32
SemperFi!
 
 
ROFL! I would prefer a sniper/scout position a little more. i like sneakin and stuff like that. I think R. Lee Ermey said on Mail Call that snipers were ( im not entirely sure if it was him but i know that some kind of show like that said it) " strange birds". Probably just a few of them are though. IT would be a fun position though.


\" War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The degraded state of morale and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.\"
- John Stewart Mill

\" Some people spend their entire lifetime wondering if they have made a difference, the Marines dont have that problem.\"
- President Ronald Reagan, 1985
 
April 22nd, 2004   #33
TheSunsetSniper
 
In response to your comment SemperFi,

"The snipe was a bird prized for its delicacy in medieval England. However, hunters had a tough time catching the bird because of its alertness and speed. As firearms improved, hunters found it easier to shoot the birds, but only by hiding and waiting for the snipe to come within range. Soon, hunters who were particularly adept at catching the bird became known as snipers."

Personally, I would like a scout/sniper position as well. I love sneaking, I love being able to abolish the worst of the enemies (according to their actions, and because my country says they are bad), and I love the fact that you can engage targets much more effectively and at much greater distances. Most of all though, I feel I am good at it. I was given a shotgun for Christmas a few years ago and used it for my first year of deer hunting. I went through five boxes of shells, after that I picked up a rifle... two shots, two kills. I also use a rifle for ridding my yard of annoyances. I sit there for Twenty minutes or so until I see a little head pop up, and then I simply shoot it. I can hit a bottle cap at three hundred yards with my .223, with a 9x scope and the only instructions I’ve had were from my grandfather and those were "the bullet will go where you put those crosshairs".


\"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.\" - TR
 
April 23rd, 2004   #34
SemperFi!
 
 
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" strange birds".

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"The snipe was a bird


LOL Sunset, i should have clarified my "strange bird" comment. I meant the snipers as an individual, the person sniper. Like the Scouts/Snipers were kinda weird, but i used "strange birds" to say that, and it was a very weird coincidence too. But thats an interesting fact though. Thanks for the history!

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April 24th, 2004   #35
TheSunsetSniper
 
Hehe... sorry, i obviously missunderstood. Anyway, yeah... cool stuff huh?
 
April 27th, 2004   #36
Currahee42
 

Re: Army or Marines? info


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Originally Posted by TheSunsetSniper
I want to join the Military. Let me rephrase that. I am going to join the Military. However, at the moment I am not sure which branch. I want to be a sniper, and I understand that I cannot simply become a sniper right after basic. I believe you must be at least a Lance Corporal. Am I correct? I am really wondering which branch I should join. I have narrowed it down to the Marines or the Army. I'm am split 50/50, so any suggestions would be valued greatly.

Another I have worry is corrected vision. I wear contacts... do they accept people with corrected vision to be put in the field? I've been told that a sniper is not allowed to have corrected vision, however I have heard of snipers in Vietnam who wore glasses. I am completely confused on the matter.

I'm not worried about Basic... I am actually looking forward to it. I partly want to join the Marine Corps because of the longer boot camp and the crucible, but I do have a few questions about it. Firstly, I am wondering how long the initial fear lasts. By the next morning has most of it worn off or do you continue to shake in your boots through the entire thing? Secondly I am wondering if the movies I have seen are accurate. I've been told that a drill instructor is not allowed to hit you, however in movies like 'Full Metal Jacket' the recruits are punched numerous times, and my friend's father (a Marine who fought in Vietnam) confirmed the accuracy of this movie. Is it true? Do they hit you?

Sorry for the long post, but thanks for taking the time to read it. I'm pretty unsteady about my future.
IF i was a sniper i wouldve went to sniper school in the marine there the best sniper in the world. Army sniper are great and awsome like gordon and shugat (sorry about my spelling i am haven a bad day and i am sick). if you dont know who they are they won the medal of honor on october 3rd 1993. They voulenteer to guard the 2nd crash site and hold it till the ground force arrive but they got overan so they gave them two sniper medal of honor. God bless them.


\"The object of war is not to die for your country,but make the other bastard die for his\"-Gen Patton.

Kevin Channell
 
May 22nd, 2004   #37
airmanpatroler
 
 
Marine Force Recon should I say more???
 
May 23rd, 2004   #38
RnderSafe
 
 
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Originally Posted by airmanpatroler
Marine Force Recon should I say more???
Yes, like maybe what you're talking about.
 
June 13th, 2004   #39
Damien435
 
 

Army or Marines? info


Ok, I know I am going to join the armed forces after I graduate next year, I know it won't be the Navy or Air Force, unless I go for security in those branches, so that basically leaves me with either the Army or the Marines. I have talked to other people who were in the military, so far about 2/3's have suggested joining the Marines and the other 1/3 have suggested the Army, so, here I go.

I have always wanted to be in the Infantry, front line combat is the life for me, I don't know why but for some reason that just sounds, while not exactly fun, better than any other options. I like the thought of joining the Marines because they will probably get me more front line combat experience, but my Grandpa was in the Army and one of my friends just joined the 10th Mountain Division. My main problem with the Army is that it doesn't seem like much oh a challenge, when they show boot camp in the Army and Marines it is like watching two entirely different shows, one they yell, cuss, make you feel less than human (bet you can guess which one), in the other they start off mean but they very quickly turn compassionate (that was the Army). I don't want to join just to go kill a bunch of people, I want to join because 1. I want to help other people who are unable to fight for their own rights, and 2. I feel that it is everyone's civic duty to serve in the armed forces, I want a draft so I figure I better lead by example.

Anyways, I was hoping that other people on here may be able to help out. And since this is my future and I am planning on going carreer in which ever branch I choose this is very important for me.
 
June 13th, 2004   #40
RnderSafe
 
 
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I like the thought of joining the Marines because they will probably get me more front line combat experience
Wrong. Infantry is infantry, Army or Marines - during a war, doesn't matter who you are with, you are going to be on the "front lines." I suggest you think long and hard about that "front line combat experience" you desire. If you are simply looking for some "action", go out to south central LA and shout racial slurs. You may want to think long and hard about your reasons.

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My main problem with the Army is that it doesn't seem like much oh a challenge, when they show boot camp in the Army and Marines it is like watching two entirely different shows, one they yell, cuss, make you feel less than human (bet you can guess which one), in the other they start off mean but they very quickly turn compassionate (that was the Army).
So, because they do not yell and curse - it isn't a challenge? Army basic is different than Marine boot, from the length to training styles. IMO, the USMC has the right idea when it comes to training new recruits and the Army has gotten side tracked and bogged down with PC bollocks along the way. That does not mean that the Army itself is not challenging. Infantry life is hard, no matter who you are serving with.

Look at both of the services, find out your options, see what best fits you. I've served with both the Army and Corps, and neither were/are easy.

Btw, as soon as this thread becomes an Army vs Marine Corps .. Soldier vs Marine, who is better thread - it gets locked, so everyone behave.