As far as I know Germany doesnt keep new weaponry secret for long periods of time,I mean In the Us for example,at airshows when a F117A Nighthawk shows up for display,you are not generally allowed to walk ,touch it ,behind the aircraft,nor take pictures.I guess the USAF pilots take enough pics.But when Germany introduced its revalutionary mobile artilery platform,that has a new faster reload system then all of mobile artilery pieces in the world,and also it did not take long for germany to introduce their new naval weapon,the almost supersonic torpedo,this weapon posse a threat to the most mighty submarine fleet in the world,witch still uses the now seeming obselt guided torpedos,The United States Navy Submarine Fleet,the only defence realy for the new hyper fast german torpedo,is maybe stealth,or nuke it out of the water ,but kill itself at the same time.Though I doubt it will happen,I mean the US and Germany arent on the first pic on the Allies list,but they are not on cold relations either,and havent been for years,I mean the earlier Abrams,and Challegers got their guns from German tank factories,now the Us just got permission to manufacture the gun for its tanks,but the Uk still uses German steel ,that should tell you something about Germany's exports!

the almost supersonic torpedo,this weapon posse a threat to the most mighty submarine fleet in the world,witch still uses the now seeming obselt guided torpedos,The United States Navy Submarine Fleet,the only defence realy for the new hyper fast german torpedo,is maybe stealth

The Russians and the United States both played with this in the 70s, turned out it really didnt work all that well, maybe the Germans made it better.

German armor is some of the best in the world,but its been awhile since the German Tanks groups have been battle tested.

Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike

Oh was it that episode where they find a planet that's been nuclearly wasted because they trie to copy nuclear technology from an old space probe originating from earth, so some of them want to take it out on the Voyager crew in a predictable, voyagery plotline.
Woomera Prohibited Area sounds pretty wicked . Don't think we got them in Germany . Well of course we have restricted military regions but none in which strange stuff is supposedly going on.

Well about as cool as 127,000 square km of flat red desert can be. It's about the same size as England and is the worlds biggest testing area.

Originally Posted by Sukio

As far as I know Germany doesnt keep new weaponry secret for long periods of time,I mean In the Us for example,at airshows when a F117A Nighthawk shows up for display,you are not generally allowed to walk ,touch it ,behind the aircraft,nor take pictures.I guess the USAF pilots take enough pics.But when Germany introduced its revalutionary mobile artilery platform,that has a new faster reload system then all of mobile artilery pieces in the world,and also it did not take long for germany to introduce their new naval weapon,the almost supersonic torpedo,this weapon posse a threat to the most mighty submarine fleet in the world,witch still uses the now seeming obselt guided torpedos,The United States Navy Submarine Fleet,the only defence realy for the new hyper fast german torpedo,is maybe stealth,or nuke it out of the water ,but kill itself at the same time.Though I doubt it will happen,I mean the US and Germany arent on the first pic on the Allies list,but they are not on cold relations either,and havent been for years,I mean the earlier Abrams,and Challegers got their guns from German tank factories,now the Us just got permission to manufacture the gun for its tanks,but the Uk still uses German steel ,that should tell you something about Germany's exports!

Cool I didn't know about this torpedo. Is the German mobile artillery you're speaking of the Panzerhaubitze 2000?

Originally Posted by AussieNick

Well about as cool as 127,000 square km of flat red desert can be. It's about the same size as England and is the worlds biggest testing area.

Is that a British orbital launch rocket or an indigenous Australian one?

I believe that is actually a British one. We allow the launching of various allied nations experimental devices here (like the Scramjet tests)

Or NASA's Ion dirve,

Yeah, that one
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Sorry, experimental rockets are not exactly my forte

Area 51 is/was this nations "Skunk Works", where just about every new breakthrough in flight technology was/is tested. From the flying wing to the B2 Bomber ... every new aircraft design has undergone extensive testing over the desert in the area designated as Area 51. Just try to get any closer than a very very long telescope distance from any portion of the facilities and see how quickly you will be intercepted, arrested, tried and sentenced for trespass of a restricted government facility. This is the one single facility in the United States where they are paranoid about trespassers. Access to the area is via aircraft ... I don't believe that there is any civilian road traffic allowed, other than pre-cleared trucking of supplies and repair parts.. You either fly in and out (or) you ride government provided buses to and from the facilities.

There have been very few stories about Area 51 that have had the blessings of the government and there won't be for the foreseeable future. This site is the "secretest" of the secret facilities - no other facility in the US has tighter security and that includes nuke sites.

"Skunk Works"

Isnt Skunk Works strickly lockheed martin?