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November 13th, 2004   Post 51
Chocobo_Blitzer
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Yup I totally agree, Istanbul will definatly side with the west.
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November 16th, 2004   Post 52
gladius
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I agree here Istanbul will side with the West...

...the military leadership that is. As far as the majority of the people go its not a sure thing.

The military leadership of Turkey has alway been secular and pro-West. They are well respected, but sometimes at odds with the majority of the Muslim populace, especially the fundamentalist. In fact if someone has Muslim fundamentalist tendencies they will be rooted out from getting in the higher ranks of the officer core.
 
November 17th, 2004   Post 53
rOk
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Originally Posted by gladius
In fact if someone has Muslim fundamentalist tendencies they will be rooted out from getting in the higher ranks of the officer core.
Very proffesional...didn't know that.
 
July 6th, 2006   Post 54
oRTouCH
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
If you tell a Turk he is an Arab he will bash your face in.

In fact, "Arab" is an insult in Turkey.

Yeaaah rite...
Turks dont love them since the 1st WW... The only arab we love is our prophet Mohammad...
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July 6th, 2006   Post 55
fingolfin361
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
They have got big population, big money, big oil, fanatic religion, proud history, if they really got united, their military will be awesome, I guess.

I have to agree with most points there, but the population of Arab nations is not large, even combined it is not huge. There just aren't enough Arabs in the Middle East. I mean, many Arab countries sustain their economies on oil wealth and Foreign labour. Large portions of the populations are foreigners, particularly other Muslims and people from South Asia. In many of the smaller countries, South Asians severely outnumber Arabs. And its not like they are naturalized citizens who would fight for the Arab country in which they live.

Many of the smaller countries rely too much on foreign, particularly Western bussiness to risk opposing the West militarily. Even though the populations of these nations do not neccessarily agree with their governments' stand, the authority of the respective Monarchs is not easy to challenge.

Also, Arab Africa shouldn't really be considered Arab. The more west you go, the less Arab the people are. Tunisia onwards, the cultures are more Berber, and are areas that came under Arab dominance, but haven't completely integrated Arab culture. Even Egypt has its distinct culture, and even speak a very different dialect of Arabic, than those spoken in Asia.

The prospect of a truly unified Arabia is far off at best, if you dont throw in some dramatic, unexpected variable of course. Like someone else said earlier, if Nasser couldn't do it, what makes you think anyone else can.
 
July 18th, 2006   Post 56
hc^patonki
Immunes
 
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Originally Posted by oRTouCH
Yeaaah rite...
Turks dont love them since the 1st WW... The only arab we love is our prophet Mohammad...
You are as kinky as those KKK guys, they hate jews, but believe in Jesus.
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July 19th, 2006   Post 57
gladius
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Originally Posted by fingolfin361
The prospect of a truly unified Arabia is far off at best, if you dont throw in some dramatic, unexpected variable of course. Like someone else said earlier, if Nasser couldn't do it, what makes you think anyone else can.
There will be no Arab unification, there is no real strong force for soley an Arab unification alone.

But there is prescident for a Muslim unification. They've had caliphates in the past.

Arab unification, no. Muslim unification, yes.
 
July 19th, 2006   Post 58
Chief Bones
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A "united" Arab country in the Middle East ... NEVER HAPPEN.

The Arabs of the Middle East are the MOST DIVERSE people in the world ... even more diverse than the United States. The Middle East is made up of every religion and sub-religion in the world and even these sub-religion groups have sub-sub-sects.

With these unique and opposite beliefs the various groups and sects will NEVER be able to settle their differences to the point that they would put up with ANY other group having control and governance over their people.

A fractured group of Arab countries is a possibility ... however ... no single country will be able to sustain an effort against the free world. The free world will never allow an Arab splinter group to endanger the world supply of oil. High prices ... MAYBE ... total blockade of oil sales to the West ... NEVER.
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