Topic: Any Space based Weapon Systems Out There?

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August 11th, 2004   Post 1
Mark Conley
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Post; Any Space based Weapon Systems Out There?


It seems to me that that a General once said you need to hold the high ground to win battles. Well the highest ground i know of is space, or rather the orbit area around the earth. Sounds like a good idea: but I almost never hear of anyone that is putting any type of space based weapon system in orbit.

Is there a reason why? Even if there is a treaty, there must still be some sort of wiggle room in it to exploit.

anyone care to shed some light on this?
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August 11th, 2004   Post 2
J.Hawk
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The Outer Space Treaty bans nuclear weapons in space and on celestial bodies. Other than that, there isn't much. ASATs are OK, as are anti-ballistic defenses. The Soviets were planning to deploy some armed manned space stations in the '70s, equipped with 37mm automatic cannon and anti-satellite rockets, but in the event they left the ASAT mission to ground-based missiles.
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August 11th, 2004   Post 3
J.Hawk
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Another thing: the Outer Space Treaty also calls for consultations in the event any state feels other countries are doing something that might impede peaceful uses of space, which is an injunction against weaponizing space, a weak one, but nevertheless.

Generally speaking, there are strong lobbies in the US and most other countries against putting weapons in space, not the least of them being all the industries that heavily rely on space communications. Once countries start putting up battlesats and plinking at satellites, civilian or otherwise, the cost of access to space would go immensely due to the higher insurance costs. There are also issues of debris polluting orbits and destroying satellites. It's doubtful even the US would be able to protect civilian satellites against ground-based ASATs and, eventually, ground-based lasers.
 
August 11th, 2004   Post 4
silent driller
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I think the US was testing a space based defense system at one point. It was designed to shoot down ICBM's in space by throwing out mini missles to blow them up over the atmosphere. It's a bit foggy to my brain, but I think I saw it on PBS(Nova).
 
August 15th, 2004   Post 5
cPFC/SAJROTC
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Silent Driller, yes, it was the Star Wars Missile Defense System that was invisioned during the Cold War.

The idea was that a series of orbital satellites could detect, track, lockon, and use a laser to destroy the guidance of a Soviet ICBM with nuclear payload. However, the idea never really took off because of expense, but the principle is the same behind some IR Jamming systems, shoot a laser into the missile's 'eye' to blind it and it'll go haywire.

Star Wars was revisited by the Bush Administration after the 9/11 attacks as a way of bolstering the US anti-missile defense system. However, it was impractical because of preexisting treaties and expense.
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August 17th, 2004   Post 6
1217
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Originally Posted by cPFC/SAJROTC
Star Wars was revisited by the Bush Administration after the 9/11 attacks as a way of bolstering the US anti-missile defense system.
I never understood that, the terrorists don't have missiles, do they? So what does this prodject have to do with 9/11?
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August 17th, 2004   Post 7
Mark Conley
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probably the old scenario...terrorist takes over missile silo control complex...makes demands...shoots missiles.

that how i see the terrorist tie-in...anything for an excuse to get it going again
 
August 18th, 2004   Post 8
1217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Conley
anything for an excuse to get it going again
So it was an excuse. Did it work?
 
August 12th, 2005   Post 9
specialasiankid
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wasn't it called a FOBS? i dont remember the specific acronym.
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August 12th, 2005   Post 10
LeEnfield
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Nobody knows just what is out there in space on some of these satellites.
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