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| 100% Space Shuttle Door Gunner | Post; Another South American Nations falls to SocialismQuote:
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Why this sudden resurgence in South America? Didn't these people see the news of the last twenty years??
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| 100% Space Shuttle Door Gunner | I keep telling people that just because the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact ended twenty years ago doesn't mean that the idea of communism hasn't. |
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| Milforum Hitman | 5.56X45mm is right on that. We have a very very strong communist left in here too. Our current House of Representatives speaker is the head of the Italian Communist Party, we have the head of another Communist Party who used to be Justice Secretary who said "Bush and Berlusconi shake their hands dirty with blood", and other important leaders of the left who repeatedly said they stand by Fidel Castro and his proud efforts to fight back American imperialism. Unchanged is their prejudices towards the free market, unchanged is their belief that religion is a way for the Vatican to dominate the ignorant masses, unchanged are their anti-Americanism and their anti-semitism. This is part of the reason why I agree with Luis.
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| Milites Gregarius | As long as Poverty is a problem in South America, Communism will have a foothold there, History has shown this. This will spread threwout South America very fast, Mexico is next on the list. |
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| Milforum Hitman | Communist has nothing to do with poverty. Seldom have the poor been communist. The poor have always been the main victims of communism and have never seen their standard of life go up. Overhere 90 % of our intellectuals, actors, directors, comedians and wealthy showbiz people give their votes to Communist Refoundation Party. Most of the rich people I know (friends with three houses and three cars, friends who go ski in the Alps on luxury week-ends) sympathize for the reds. The workers and the poor go for Berlusconi. I'm talking mainstream trends. |
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Does nobody ever asks himself how all these multinationals gained ownership of Bolivian resources. Maybe the Bolivians get a crappy deal to start of with and they are fed up with losing all this revenu. So instead of calling it communism you could also call it nationalism. It seems that nobody looks before 1900 in the history of things. Just to give an answer on my first question is: in many ways but a fair one. They lost their resources through all kinds of ways... always giving them the short end of the stick!
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| Nuclear Duck Hunter ![]() | Nationalizing the foreign oil companies got Mexico into the fix they're in now. The poor are still dying in the deserts of Southwest US trying to escape rampant poverty. The South American countries are paid for oil and gas taken from the fields. The people are employed and there is no problem with mis-management and corruption so prevalent in those countries. You will see smoothly running companies shut down and much worse poverty than ever. Venezuela is a prime example of "things could be worse."
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| Centurion | Post; DudeCommunisim always take foothold in poor enviornment. Look at how it started in Russia and China. So, if you want it to die, start building strong economies gloablly. There will be communism in wealthy countries as well, but peopel are so happy with democratic system and wealth that will never allow communism flourish. No worry about that. Aggresive Political Revolution => breeds hate + failures! Economic Reform = Communism Gone! It has been proven. Poverty = angers that breed illogical ideas. |
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| Milforum Hitman | Quote:
East Germany, Slovenia, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, the Baltik countries were never poor. Remember, communists have never won a democratic election. Anywhere. They used coups to seize power because the people, for as poor as they might be, would not trust them. Last edited by Italian Guy; May 8th, 2006 at 18:41. | |
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