Topic: Another Abu Ghraib?

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March 15th, 2005   Post 1
Corocotta
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Post; Another Abu Ghraib?


A German citizen, Khaled el Masri, says he was taken on a CIA plane and sent to Afghanistan where he says he was stripped, beaten and abused.

He was interrogated by American agents for months, el Masri said, and at one point was told "you are here in a land where there are no laws. No one knows about you or where you are."

El Masri was released by the United States after four months without being charged with any crime.

And others have come forward with their stories as well. Maher Arar, a Canadian, was sent to Syria in 2003 where he says he was tortured for 10 months. Mamdouh Habib, an Australian, claims he was transferred by U.S. agents from Pakistan to Egypt in 2001, where he says he was tortured for six months before being taken to Guantanamo Bay.

Some officials have already begun to decry the consequences of the rendition program.

"Like Abu Ghraib, it took a while for the outrage to build," said Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass. "The more the American people find out we are allowing other countries to torture in our name, there is going to be an outcry across this country."




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March 15th, 2005   Post 2
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So you're suggesting that we capture/kidnap foreign nationals, torture them for months on end, make dead sure they know who their captors are, and then buy them a plane ticket home? Makes sense to me.
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March 15th, 2005   Post 3
chewie_nz
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this threads already been discussed at some length....esp the CIA plane.
 
March 15th, 2005   Post 4
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Yeah. And besides thats not a CIA aircraft. That belongs to the "Men in Black" if you look closely you can see Tommy Lee Jones at the controls :P
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March 15th, 2005   Post 6
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Of course if it's in the news it's accurate and correct right?
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March 16th, 2005   Post 7
Locke
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dont you get sick of finding anti american website with a conspiratorial tone?
seriously, ur like a broken record

i looked at two of those site and that truthout one seems to be a nice simple site which collects articles from other website which have a stance which suits them and they copy and paste, with references. but they dont actually tell you anything about who runs the site or what thier objectives are, so for all we know they could be patriotic americans who are collecting anti american articles in order to send up the people who oppose them and to discredit them by showing how easy it is to throw mud
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March 16th, 2005   Post 8
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This guy doesn't discuss anything because the few times he has he's been so full of glaring inaccuracies that even he's acknowledged it and now he just confines himself to repeatedly posting web links and making anti-American post, after anti-American post, after anti-American post, after anti-American post, etc ad infinitum.

Mod Edit: No need to repeat 1000 times. we got the point when you wrote " ad infinitum"....
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March 16th, 2005   Post 9
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This is off topic but what is with people always trying to come up with these conspiracy theories like when that Italian journalist was shot there were articles saying Americans attack journalist intentionally or that it was a personal attack. I believe the reward for a dead American was like $500 U.S. in ramadi last year, if we wanted to kill the Italian journalist we would of hired the same thugs trying to kill us now and Italy would be screaming its head off and it would probably of made us look better at that price i could of hired some one to kill her. I am sure we could do the same for these interrogations, why would we keep him alive afterwards American society seems to have allot higher regard for human life then the Iraqi culture I dare to say its true for allot of other cultures the human life is cheap it cost the price of a 9mm round and maybe some cement shoes to throw them in the river or you could use rocks and save a penny.
just the rumblings of a intoxicated scout.
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March 16th, 2005   Post 10
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If you look at where I circled in red. It is obviously a foreigner being pulled along by the jet as they take off for interrogation.
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