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May 9th, 2008   Post 11
Ted
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In Holland a bill was passed recently prohibiting sex with animals. The fact that there should be a law on this subject disturbes me..... but it was necessary. :s
 
May 9th, 2008   Post 12
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Sports players get forced to run through their injuries pretty often. What makes you think a horse would get any better treatment?

As for animal rights, all I have to say is this: be respectful.

As for animal rights people, I think they are for the most part, crazy. They think animals are some kind of peace loving creatures who know no violence, who are gentle, well mannered and are never selfish. It is a fantasy born from their hate of other people and their inability to socialize effectively. In many ways, it's a sympathy for the weak that has gone way overboard.
They always want it "natural."
Truth is nature is NOT peace, rather it is the opposite.
They fail to realize that people settled in societies with rules BECAUSE they wanted peace from the constant fighting.

May they never buy any medicine either by the way.

Also, these same people often like these "oriental medicines" because they think that it was invented through meditation. In ancient China, they used to cut up live death-row prisoners to study the anatomy of the human being. Not cadavers, LIVE people because they knew that the vital systems for life would be hard to detect if their subject was dead. THAT'S how Chinese medicine was developed.
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May 9th, 2008   Post 13
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Originally Posted by mmarsh
Allow me to reexplain:

The allegation was that the horse was in no condition to run due to a previous injury, and that the owners ran her anyway. They didn't expect the horse would get injured this way so they took a gamble and lost, (as did the horse). You can see the temptation to take such a risk, as a Kentucky Derby win is worth Millions in Prize, Punting, Advertising, and Studing monies. If its true, punish the owners. Its cruel to the animal and tarnishes the sport.

PETA doesnt like horse racing, so its entirely possible they are trying to bring the opposition to horse racing to a public light.
Agreed.

The true allegation was that the jockey ran the horse beyond the breaking point. Which is total bull, because she broke down AFTER the race had ended.
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May 9th, 2008   Post 14
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Sports players get forced to run through their injuries pretty often. What makes you think a horse would get any better treatment?
That may be true but for the most part we don't shoot athletes with broken legs.
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May 9th, 2008   Post 15
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I wonder if there is a home somewhere for old race horses. I feel bad for them, running their whole lives only to receive a bullet to the head...
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May 9th, 2008   Post 16
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I wonder if there is a home somewhere for old race horses. I feel bad for them, running their whole lives only to receive a bullet to the head...
It's called a stud farm... "duties" 25-100 times a year for the rest of your life doesn't sound so bad. And most only race until about age 7. They live about 20 years.

And for those who don't do that, there are retirement homes of sorts.
 
May 10th, 2008   Post 17
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That may be true but for the most part we don't shoot athletes with broken legs.
Is it true that a horse can never really move again if it breaks its leg or is that a rumor?

Also, you are right. But this would be the perfect time to send it to a restaurant.
 
May 10th, 2008   Post 18
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Is it true that a horse can never really move again if it breaks its leg or is that a rumor?
That's a rumor. There have been horses who have injured themselves and survived just fine. In the 1999 Belmont Stakes, the Kentucky Derby winner Charismatic broke a leg, but he's still alive.
 
May 10th, 2008   Post 19
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I believe that certain animals are here to be eaten, and certain animals are here for work.
I do NOT believe that ANY animal should have to suffer, when I hunt I go for a clean shot, instant death for my target. I don't and wil never hunt for sport or for fun. I don't know if the Kentucky derby people could have saved that horse' life or not, not a vet, not my place to comment, BUT I do believe that that more could have been done to prevent the horse from falling down in the first place.

I have to say this about the law against sex with animals, there should not be a law against it, that should be plain common sense eeeewwwwww. If you ever catch somebody doing that, just shoot them in the head and get it over with.
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Last edited by wolfen; May 10th, 2008 at 19:55..
 
May 10th, 2008   Post 20
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Like I said... restaurant.
 



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