Is Russia considered part of Europe for this poll?

Originally Posted by Airborne Eagle

Is Russia considered part of Europe for this poll?

I have always considered Russia an anomoly of their own.

But I think Europeans are ungrateful, they try to downplay the role of the US in WWII. But yet they never mention Lend Lease or the fact that from 1939-1941 Churchill was practically begging Roosevelt to help. And Russia would have been defeated without the supplies they got thanks to Lend Lease.

If you amend the above statement to say "except the UK" I will agree with you. That certain nation I refer to tends to throw in the whole " During your revolution." arguement every time that is brought up.That debt was paid twice. The UK on the other hand has never forgotten we were and are allies in a common cause.

Originally Posted by 03USMC

If you amend the above statement to say "except the UK" I will agree with you. That certain nation I refer to tends to throw in the whole " During your revolution." arguement every time that is brought up.That debt was paid twice. The UK on the other hand has never forgotten we were and are allies in a common cause.

Russia and the UK are both in the same category, and when I think of Europe I really only think of France and Germany, the rest are just cannon fodder, like when we studied the buildup in Europe from 1880-1914, it quickly became obvious that Germany and the UK were the two most powerful countries in Europe. Russia, Austria-Hungary, and Italy had fallen way behind and France was somewhere in the middle.

I have friends and family in Europe so I'm there quite often.
My reflection on Europe (with the exception of the UK and perhaps to a limited degree Germany) is that they are pleasant people but are very incapable.
No one falls under this category better than Belgium. Very nice, but very incapable. All that education and they still can't do anything.
France... arrogant and nothing to back it up. My least favorite European. You can find some nice people there still.
The English tend to be a good mix of being alright to be around and still being capable.
I said "nice, but incapable."

The French are strong on paper but really... if you take a look, their useful people are foreign.
They ought to pass a law that says Presidents of France from now on may only be naturalized, foreign born citizens. Reflects their useful population more fairly that way.

Originally Posted by Damien435

Russia and the UK are both in the same category, and when I think of Europe I really only think of France and Germany, the rest are just cannon fodder, like when we studied the buildup in Europe from 1880-1914, it quickly became obvious that Germany and the UK were the two most powerful countries in Europe. Russia, Austria-Hungary, and Italy had fallen way behind and France was somewhere in the middle.

Thanks for keep voting and expressing your views. There was of course a high degree of generalization in my question, and it could have hardly been different.
UK is clearly 'something' different than Americans' usual idea of a 'European country', and the Russia issue is important.
Whether it is part of Europe or not, it wasn't meant as a European country in the poll question.
France, Germany, Spain, UK, Italy, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Poland, Denmark and all the other continental countries were included.
Some of you pointed out that it was clear to you guys in your schoolyears how much stronger UK and Germany have been than any other countries in Europe.
Right. Size doesnt mean everything though.
China could easily annihilate UK, that doesnt mean China is more appreciable than UK is, at the eyes of the Americans.
What is greater than Italy sticking with the US and UK in such a heavy war, because we believe we are truly brother nations and our interests are intertwined? Whats better than Poland understanding that US have played a major role in the world's spread of democracy, so sends its boys to the front side by side with US soldiers?
And, for big and tough they may have been in the past, or predominant in power, whats more shameful than two big countries whose liberation took away hundreds of thousands of American young men, now cowardly staying at home?
If I were American, I would vote for the basically ungrateful option, or for the some ok some no good one.

Originally Posted by Italian Guy

Right. Size doesnt mean everything though.
China could easily annihilate UK.

Not quite, see China would have to go through Russia, Poland, Germany, and France before they could hope to touch the UK. Their Navy, well I don't want to say it is a joke but let's face it, other than a few destroyers, a frigate or two, and a couple attack subs their Navy is limited to the coastal waters of China, it is designed to attack Taiwan, not any further.

Yeah Damian, you are probably right, but I think you got my point. Let's just not go off topic now.

In the past 25 years america became a stuck up and gets into every ones business, and believes she is better