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October 26th, 2004   Post 21
Redneck
Buttercup
 
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
But you get what I mean.
Volunteer in the fullest length of the spirit is a guy willing to go to Iraq without protest.

I know what you are trying to say, but you are wrong.

We just need to be careful that we don't hijack the thread here.
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October 26th, 2004   Post 22
Chocobo_Blitzer
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Well, one more thing:

"Reservist and citizen-soldiers stand ready, in every free nation, to stand to the colors and die in holocaust, the big war. Reservist and citizen-soldiers reamin utterly reluctant to stand and die in anything less... The man who will go where his colors go, without asking, who will fight a phantom foe in the jugle and mountain range, without counting, and who will suffer and die in the midst of incredible hardship, without complaint, is still what he has always been, from Imperial Rome to sceptered Britian to democratic America. He is the stuff of which legions are made."- T. R. Fehrenbach
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October 26th, 2004   Post 23
FlyingFrog
Tribuni Angusticlavii
 
Any one knows how big the American National Guards is?
Half million men or something?
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October 27th, 2004   Post 24
Marksman
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Well,i have one opinion about those militias that were mentioned,i thing that they are being made only couse medias such as news papers and TV are brainwashing americans about possible terrorist attack,i mean its good to be ready but the intensity of this is making US nation paranoic
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October 27th, 2004   Post 25
Uncle_Sam
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Those Militias are excellent for which they are made for....
Paranoic??... It's true, but good thing.
You know how they say.... Better prevent it than heal it.
But Militia and National Guard are two different things...(I think... )


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October 27th, 2004   Post 26
ravensword227
Optio
 
I don't think you understood the definition of militias as outlined by Section 311. Militia: composition and classes

All male citizens over the age of 18 are part of the unorganized militia regardless of if they agree with it or not. It is recommended that they bear arms, but it is not a requirement. Congress is authorized to arm the unorganized militia with military grade equipment in times of war (see: Civilian Air Patrol of WW2). National guard are simply a better trained and equipped militia that is designed to fight another army on our soil. This is part of our system of checks and balances.

That link you posted has references to extremists, and it is in no way representative of what is the militia was intended to be. Those "radical" individuals are no more prevalent than "radical" tree-hugging terrorists.
 
October 29th, 2004   Post 27
FlyingFrog
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In USA there are still KKKers, and some local military groups, why are they not treated as terrorists? Or those guys don't pose danger to the society?
 
October 29th, 2004   Post 28
ravensword227
Optio
 
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
In USA there are still KKKers, and some local military groups, why are they not treated as terrorists? Or those guys don't pose danger to the society?
The KKK is national socialist (Nazi) scum. They don’t believe in the right to bear arms for anyone other than themselves. I couldn’t care less what they think as long as they don’t mess with anyone or our rights.
 
October 29th, 2004   Post 29
Redneck
Buttercup
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
In USA there are still KKKers, and some local military groups, why are they not treated as terrorists? Or those guys don't pose danger to the society?
They are treated as terrorist groups, chief, when they commit terrorist acts. The KKK at this time is so fenced in by the FBI, among other governmental organizations, that if they even think about acting on their insane rhetoric they will end up in Club Fed quicker than a hippie can come up with a conspiracy theory.

We have a Bill of Rights here that, among other things, guarantees us as citizens of the United States the freedom of speech, which extremist groups like the Klan, the Black Panthers, and the Earth Liberation Front are free to make use of this freedom so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of other citizens. Once they do cross that line, they become and are treated as terrorists.

Next challenge of my country's integrity......




Now get back on topic.
 
October 30th, 2004   Post 30
Missileer
Nuclear Duck Hunter
 
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
American soldiers volunteers...
technically yes. But there are those who are in the "ready reserve" who didn't really fulfill their entire time and were placed on the "ready reserve" status.
Which means they live like civilians etc. but they can be called up. Now these guys have been called up and they're acting like they're being drafted. So techncially yes, all volunteers but actually some really don't want to be there.
Don't forget about the citizenry who we called the Minutemen. There is more firepower available in America than any place on this planet. Hunters alone make up a more formidable armed force than most Countries. The World's finest weapons are available to anyone who qualifies to own them and a lot who don't qualify. In Texas alone gun ownership equals about three to every person but I have a feeling there are more that are just not registered. So, theoretically, I guess we have a standing armed force of over 250 million. Grannie's shotgun will kill just as surely as a military weapon.
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