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September 6th, 2008   Post 31
mmarsh
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Well behind the smiling face lets remember what she really stands for.

1. She is a Global Warming Denier -one of the few left.
2. She is hugely supportive of Big Oil and Big Business
3. She is an evangelical Christian whose view include anti gay and any abortion sentiments. She has based some of the strictest anti-gay legislation in the country.
4. A Military Hawk
5. Believes Creationism she be taught in School
6. She is anti-Abortion in ALL CASES except when mom's life is in danger.
7. Pro-Capital Punishment (abit of a contradiction with her pro-life views)
8. A strong anti-Enviromental record, opposing endangered status for polar bears and refugees for Whales on Economic (big Oil Business) concerns.
9. A pro-Israel hawk.
10. Believes in "Family Values" but apparently those values didn't include keeping a closer eye own her own 17 year old daughter. At 44 years old she will be a Grandmother. Oh I just cannot wait to listen to her family views lectures.
11. Has no extensive experience in anything except very small town politics. Her international experience is limited to Hockey, Canadian Hockey.

But besides all this she really has NOTHING in common with the previous government.
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September 6th, 2008   Post 32
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The sad thing about your list mmarsh is that the real JohnMcCain would not have swallowed hardly any of it a few years ago. He has really sold out to the religious right. I read today that Colin Powell is shocked at the direction McCain is taking to win the Presidency.

I have this feeling that if he does win, he might not be so accommodating to the religious right as they might have anticipated him to be. He'll only be a one term President, I think.
 
September 6th, 2008   Post 33
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Originally Posted by senojekips

I'd vote for her.

Here you are my friend, in black and white, one complete sentence. You see, I do read your posts, with my reading glasses on.

Now we have no reason to fall out on this one. I say that the lady's performance was great, and point out that informed opinion around the world accept her presentaion of the speech as extraordinary. I go along with that.
You do not trust any politician, and as a class, I agree. ButI am always searching for the exception and on this one I am optimistic.

You are correct in your assessment of my opinion of my particular government, but that is based on specifics. I honestly cannot avoid the premise that they are driving us to ruin and disaster. I am more sure every day, because they refuse to raise one finger to plug the hole, and I feel that we are going down with a sinking ship. That in itself would not be so incomprehensible if it was not so damned obvious.

We have differing views, that's all. There is room for both.
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September 6th, 2008   Post 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by errol
The sad thing about your list mmarsh is that the real JohnMcCain would not have swallowed hardly any of it a few years ago. He has really sold out to the religious right. I read today that Colin Powell is shocked at the direction McCain is taking to win the Presidency.

I have this feeling that if he does win, he might not be so accommodating to the religious right as they might have anticipated him to be. He'll only be a one term President, I think.
Colin Powell, aka The Bush Administration's first scapegoat, is one of very few Republicans I'd ever consider voting for.

I agree, McCain's sold out to the far right to get this nomination. Proof that you can't go wrong with sucking up...
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September 6th, 2008   Post 35
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I agree, off topic, but I agree... Colin Powell would make one helluva POTUS. Sadly, I think John McCain did sell his soul to the conservative devil a little bit. One must do what it takes if one is to be the President. I think that's why Powell didn't want to run.
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September 6th, 2008   Post 36
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I agree, off topic, but I agree... Colin Powell would make one helluva POTUS. Sadly, I think John McCain did sell his soul to the conservative devil a little bit. One must do what it takes if one is to be the President. I think that's why Powell didn't want to run.
Pretty understandable there.
 
September 6th, 2008   Post 37
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Unfortunately, I did not get to watch it since I cant have any media this year, but it sounds like it was a great speech. I am overjoyed about it, and it is great to know that democrats are seeing the light, and I am sure the swing vote it too. This is a great step in the right direction.

McCain has had to sell himself out, which is definitely too bad, but I hope that if he is elected he will go back to being his maverick self again. We need someone like that as president.
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September 7th, 2008   Post 38
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Originally Posted by istealfreefood
McCain has had to sell himself out, which is definitely too bad, but I hope that if he is elected he will go back to being his maverick self again. We need someone like that as president.
I doubt it will happen. Heck, maverick is a term he lifted from someone else who dropped out of the race back in 2000.
 
September 7th, 2008   Post 39
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Don't be a clot Del Boy your selective editing fools no one.
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Originally Posted by senojekips
You must have seen a different broadcast in England, the one shown here was just the same old political pap as one expects from a politician. But as I said I think she's pretty down to earth as a person. I'd vote for her.
I have made very clear that I would vote for her only on her personality. I have stated quite clearly that I have neither the knowledge nor the faith to vote for a US politician based purely on "personality" perhaps unlike yourself.
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September 7th, 2008   Post 40
mmarsh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by istealfreefood
Unfortunately, I did not get to watch it since I cant have any media this year, but it sounds like it was a great speech. I am overjoyed about it, and it is great to know that democrats are seeing the light, and I am sure the swing vote it too. This is a great step in the right direction.

McCain has had to sell himself out, which is definitely too bad, but I hope that if he is elected he will go back to being his maverick self again. We need someone like that as president.
But doesn't that say something about what kind of person he is? Do we really want someone who would sell out his own beliefs to please the mob. We don't extremist in the White House and we don't need people who sell out to extremists either.

Take someone like Colin Powell who got so tired of having to deal with these same type of extremists that he resigned. Now that's someone who could be president.

Last edited by mmarsh; September 7th, 2008 at 10:45..
 



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