She got what she deserved for being careless in the kitchen maybe she need new prison job like cleaning the bathrooms especially when there clogged up with crap.

Gentlemen, lets set the record straight....what she did was wrong, but not criminal BY CIVILIAN COURT....what she did was forget as a American soldier her duties to herself and for shutting off her brain on duty; read the stats gentlemen....of the hundreds of claims of 'abuse', few were shown as such, what I want to know is where were the NCO's and First Sargent's at this prison? Where were the commanders and why aren't they handed their heads (or were they?)?....sounds to me like she tried to lift more than she could manage and didn't get help....she has a pattern of this, 'doing' instead of 'thinking'.....

I would with all due respect offer the following rant in response...

Where's my violin?


1. Crap rolls downhill, such is life, not just in the military.

2. SHE committed the act, there was no gun to her head so she is responsible for her actions- no one else.

3. Her actions have further endangered coalition troops so I don't give a good god damn what excuses she or anyone else offers up on her behalf.

Sir, I am NOT offering excuses....by the US soldiers code of conduct and ethics what she did was pure wrong....she is a responsible for her actions, good or bad...period....but so was HER chain of command....THEY are also responsible AND accountable for HER actions....what happened to ALL her NCO's and Officers? Why haven't those people been barbecued like she was?

Typical modus operandi Blackwatch, the man in charge rarely takes the fall, it always falls to an underling... Ollie North, Scooter Williams, Karl Rove, this England character and her lover/moron. The differences only being that at higher levels the fall guy is usually a willing participant taking it on in exchange for favours from the person they're protecting and at the lower levels they take the fall by virtue of the fact that they did the deed. They did it and we as a society don't put the same burden of shame on an incompetent supervisor as we do on a culpable actor.

I very clearly and specifically remember being instructed during BASIC training when it came to our instruction on the Law of War the following... If you are given an order that you KNOW is wrong or illegal you have the absolute duty to refuse that order because following orders is no excuse for commiting an offense and you will be held accountable regardless.

YEP, well said, Bulldog

Originally Posted by Blackwatch

Gentlemen, lets set the record straight....what she did was wrong, but not criminal BY CIVILIAN COURT..

..what she did was forget as a American soldier her duties to herself and for shutting off her brain on duty;

what I want to know is where were the NCO's and First Sargent's at this prison?

A civilian Police Officer or a Corrections Officer would have been convicted of excessive force, assault and a myriad of other charges. Not to mention the civil judgements that would have been issued against them and their agency.

Right it's called conduct unbecoming.

Her NCOIC is doing a ten year bit.

Yeah yeah. Always blame it all on the lowest link in the chain of command...

Oh. Sorry. This has already been discussed

There were many people who should have been supervising her and the prison got away with it. Why is it that muck flows down to lower ranks while praise and rewards only to go those in charge.