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View Poll Results :Is Abortion Murder?
Yes (Men) 20 38.46%
No (Men) 22 42.31%
Other Opinions (Men) 4 7.69%
Yes (Women) 2 3.85%
No (Women) 3 5.77%
Other Opinions (Women) 1 1.92%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

 
June 18th, 2004   Post 1
Tessa
Primus Pilus
 
 

Post; Abortion Discussion


I thought I would open up a poll about this since I have been hearing alot about this lately.

Then again, I have made seperate vote options for the men and for the women.

So you all male types vote on the options that has (Men) in it and the women vote for the option that has (Women) in it.

And if you choose "Other Opinions" please post your thoughts about this and why you chosed "Other Opinions".
 
June 18th, 2004   Post 2
Tessa
Primus Pilus
 
 
I am for abortion, since I believe it's up to every couple to decide wether they want it or not.

But the guy also has the right to decide about it, it's not a one person thing.

It takes two to make it, so it will take two to decide it.

(Except for rape cases where I believe the woman has every right to do an abortion.)

Do you agree/disagree?
 
June 18th, 2004   Post 3
C/2nd Lt Robot
Tribunus Laticlavius
 
 
according to the law it isnt murder due to the case that it hasnt been born yet. So you cant kill what hasnt lived yet.
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June 18th, 2004   Post 4
Tessa
Primus Pilus
 
 
I agree and thanks for starting the discussion.
 
June 18th, 2004   Post 5
AlexKall
Tribuni Angusticlavii
 
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Originally Posted by nulli secundus
according to the law it isnt murder due to the case that it hasnt been born yet. So you cant kill what hasnt lived yet.
It doesnt have to be born, it must be a sertain amount of weeks before its called a baby.
 
June 19th, 2004   Post 6
Marksman
Tribuni Angusticlavii
 
 
im against abortion,cuz you dont let that kind of mistakes to happen...........and if they do,you live with it or..................you abort
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June 19th, 2004   Post 7
Tessa
Primus Pilus
 
 
Well, So should women not have sex because of the chances to get pregnant?

A few women do get pregnant even if they're on pills, so what should happen then?

So sex is not something for pleasure and intimacy then? It's just for breeding up your offspring?
 
June 19th, 2004   Post 8
FutureOKtrooper
Milites Gregarius
 
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Originally Posted by SilverPhoenix
I am for abortion, since I believe it's up to every couple to decide wether they want it or not.
It’s up to every couple if they want it or not? Now I may be a simple minded person, born and raised in Arkansas, but we had birth control! If a man and women are mature enough to have sex, then they must take the responsibilities that follow! Abortion is not a “get out of jail free” card.

I have a two year old son. I was 21 when I found out. My wife and I weren’t married at the time. Was a scared? You bet I was. I didn’t know how I was going to tell my family back home, let alone hers. We had the choice to abort and get on with our lives as normal, forget the whole thing had ever occurred however, WE took responsibilities for our actions.

We now have another child on the way. Once again, it wasn’t planned. Once again, I stepped up to the plate and was a man about it. Who am I to “legally” kill a child? “But it’s not considered a child until it’s been in the womb for “X” amount of weeks.” That’s the cowards’ way out people! We just saw the first ultrasounds of our baby. At seven weeks, it has a beating heart. Are you telling me it’s not a child? I have news for you, it is! IT’S MY CHILD AND I’M PROUD OF IT!!!

Like everything else in life, there are exceptions. I believe if a woman is rapped, she should be able to abort. God forbid, but if that happened to my wife, I wouldn’t want her to carry that mans baby for nine months. Also, if it can be proven without a doubt, a mother should be able to abort if the baby will cause life-threatening injuries during the pregnancy. NOT FOR BIRTH CONTROL!

Unfortunately, it’s not against the law to kill a child. Until it is, people will continue to abuse the freedoms given to us by our forefathers. Just keep one thing in mind. How worse off would this world be if you mother aborted you, If you didn’t get to make a choice to live or die?
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June 19th, 2004   Post 9
FutureOKtrooper
Milites Gregarius
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverPhoenix
Well, So should women not have sex because of the chances to get pregnant?

A few women do get pregnant even if they're on pills, so what should happen then?

So sex is not something for pleasure and intimacy then? It's just for breeding up your offspring?
Have sex if you want and for whatever reason. You’re not stupid. You know what could happen. What you’re saying makes no sense at all.

For example, take riding in a car. (Sex) It’s fun to drive as fast as we can, right? Well, right around the corner you have an accident. Did you have a seatbelt (birth control) on? If you did, then your chances of surviving just increased. (not having a baby) If you didn’t, well, we know the outcome. (having a baby) But why is it they sometimes UNBUCKLE dead bodies? (accident) It's the choice you make BEFORE you drive that car.
 
June 19th, 2004   Post 10
1217
Primus Pilus
 
Well, FutureOKtrooper, you want it to be legal to abort in case of rape, but not in case of an accidental pregnancy? Then you'll get people saying they've been raped to be allowed to get an abortion. I don't think that'll help.
And what if the mother isn't capable of taking care of the child in one way or another?
I'm not saying that an unborn child doesn't have rights, I'm saying it does.... and so do the parents. It will always be a tense topic... but I voted "no"
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